Hi Remi On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 11:04:50PM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Le perjantaina 22. marraskuuta 2024, 20.45.39 EET Michael Niedermayer a écrit [...] > > not just treat it as if split out means deleting it from ffmpeg. > > Err, but yes. From the perspective of FFmpeg-devel, once libpostproc is spun > off from FFmpeg, then it is no longer maintained by FFmpeg developers. So we > _must_ treat the hypothesis as a deletion from FFmpeg.
If libpostproc is split off i would work on libpostproc. And i will ensure that the development environment there will be free of these kind of debates. Meaning i and others can do several times more usefull work. Also libpostproc is GPL and compatible with a wide range of GPL filters that could then be provided through a new libpostproc interface [...] > > also git history must be bisectable, and future changes from ffmpeg > > buildsystem must be merged > > WTH? It would take an insane amount of time to rewrite a synthetic bisectable > history. That would definitely not be worth the effort (or not worth paying > someone hourly wage for it anyway). so now its an insane amount of time ? before its not worth 5k and yes, my split out code is fully bisectable and mergeble, in fact that part of the work was not hard. > > Surely there is more impactful potential use of STF funding. in the unlikey case that STF will accept FFmpeg in the future after all these debates. Then you can suggest these for STF 2025 (which thilo wanted to post about already, but then he saw all the hostilities ...) And frankly it cannot be expected from someone to subject themselfs to this. [...] > > > I intended to do all the above and likely more for 15k euro. > > And i have yet to see someone offer to do this for less. Its easy to > > say "its worth less", iam still waiting for the one who actually does > > it for less. > > Didn't Kieran, I and a few other warn you against using FFmpeg-devel for > making decisions on usage of STF funding? Can't say you weren't warned. Once > again, you can't have it both ways. What problem do you speak about ? I see no problem, I see ~4 people of several thousand subscribers who are aggressive in the last years. thats like 0.2% This does not seem to be an unsolveable problem to me. > > You can choose to eat your words, ignore all the motivated opposition here, > and take STF funding without the FFmepg community acquiescing. Or you live > with the consequences of your own decisions and do not fund libpostproc, - > because clearly nobody other than you cares about it. I already instructed SPI several days ago to donate the 5k to FFmpeg-SPI, as i also said already. The FFmepg community did in the past want libpostproc split out. Thats what the people at the time who spoke up wanted. Now some people think its a bad idea, and some people argue about the cost or what exactly should be done. Obviously if people do not want it, then it wont happen. It would have been nice if the people would have spoken up in the last 9 months and not waited until after work had already started. The parts i already did, i donate all the 5k as i said. For the parts that where not done yet, iam still investigating what options there are. thx [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB I have often repented speaking, but never of holding my tongue. -- Xenocrates
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