Joseph Stegner wrote:

 >
 >Shutting down normally and then turning the system on is okay, everything
 >loads.  It's just when I reboot from 8.2, or reboot from the 8.2 
installer,
 >that this happens.  Win2k and 8.1 do this just fine.
 >
 >Hardware:
 >
 >A7M266-M Asus board OEM'd for HP "Bermuda/BoraBora" running BIOS 3.33 from
 >HP website
 >It's an AMD 760 Ironwood chipset
 >AMD Athlon 1.4 Ghz Tbird
 >5400rpm Seagate 40 GB (Win2k hd)
 >7200rpm Maxtor 20 GB (linux and a fat32 partition)
 >Geforce 2 GTS 64 MB DDR
 >Sony Spressa 16x10x40x
 >Toshiba 12x DVD
 >floppy
 >SB Live! Value
 >Agere Winmodem (Mars chipset)
 >
 >----- Original Message -----
 >From: "James Sparenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >To: "Expert List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:14 AM
 >Subject: Re: [expert] Rebooting 8.2 or 8.2 installer causes bad CMOS
 >checksum
 >
 >
 >>On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 21:58, Joseph Stegner wrote:
 >>
 >>>The thing starts acting up before I get to Lilo, but only after a
 >>>
 >Mandrake
 >
 >>>8.2 or 8.2 Installer reboot.  With Win2k reboots and 8.1 reboots, all is
 >>>well in Lilo-land.  Also when I shutdown and boot up, I get to Lilo
 >>>
 >easily,
 >
 >>>and can load 8.2 with no problems.  Rebooting is the problem here, which
 >>>
 >is
 >
 >>>very inconvenient for me as a student needing to develop for both
 >>>
 >platforms.
 >
 >>>It never reaches Lilo after rebooting 8.2/Installer.  It just sits there
 >>>after initializing my mouse trying to get to the HDDs.  Waiting for a
 >>>
 >minute
 >
 >>>or so leaves the computer there, sometimes saying something is wrong
 >>>
 >with
 >
 >>>the system clock and preventing booting at all.  I have had to kill it
 >>>
 >upon
 >
 >>>more than one occasion, only to see all my BIOS options had been
 >>>
 >returned to
 >
 >>>default.
 >>>
 >>Dense I am... (in my best Yoda voice) This is happening after an install
 >>from which point you are unable to boot to anything... Is it also
 >>happening after a normal shutdown?  I think this is what you are
 >>saying...  Understand I may not have an answer but if I find out enough
 >>info either someone here or maybe someone I know will have seen this
 >>before and can help.  For the sake of completeness Can you give us a
 >>hardware list...  Most important is of course is the Mobo and CPU... It
 >>could well be a BIOS problem and not an OS one... but there does seem to
 >>be a link, from what you are saying.  Also have you had to do any
 >>special tweaks like Raid cards or Nvidia .... I think we may be treading
 >>on new ground with this problem... maybe not.
 >>
 >>James
 >>
 >>>Like I said, shutting it down then turning it back on will stop the
 >>>
 >problem
 >
 >>>until I reboot again.
 >>>
 >>>Joe
 >>>----- Original Message -----
 >>>From: "James Sparenberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>To: "Expert List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:32 AM
 >>>Subject: Re: [expert] Rebooting 8.2 or 8.2 installer causes bad CMOS
 >>>checksum
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>>On Tue, 2002-09-10 at 21:01, Joseph Stegner wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>>>The problem is Win2k and Mandrake 8.1 cause no such problems at all.
 >>>>>
 >>>Why
 >>>
 >>>>>would 8.2 be the only one to bring out symptoms of a faulty BIOS?
 >>>>>
 >>>>Joseph,
 >>>>
 >>>>  Our confusion I believe is that Bios only reacts and prints to the
 >>>>screen before you get to lilo... This is what tells the box what OS to
 >>>>boot to.  Or are you using some kind of BIOS based bootloader other
 >>>>
 >than
 >
 >>>>Lilo?  Or are these errors appearing after Lilo or whatever your
 >>>>bootloader is.  I'm not questioning your findings just that the
 >>>>description you give is a tad confusing.  If It occurs in BIOS then at
 >>>>that point it is entirely BIOS (Remove your hdd and you can still boot
 >>>>to BIOS on many mobo's then you get the error no OS found...) BUT if
 >>>>
 >the
 >
 >>>>error is occuring after Lilo selection of the OS... this is strange.
 >>>>However I've learned never say never in computers. (I have ram that
 >>>>doesn't like one of my computers.... It works in 5 others and tests
 >>>>
 >good
 >
 >>>>with memory testing software, but it won't work in one box. *sigh*) So
 >>>>if you would please could you clarify the confusion... and someone
 >>>>
 >here
 >
 >>>>hopefully can help.
 >>>>
 >>>>James
 >>>>
 >>>>>----- Original Message -----
 >>>>>From: "Todd Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:34 PM
 >>>>>Subject: Re: [expert] Rebooting 8.2 or 8.2 installer causes bad CMOS
 >>>>>checksum
 >>>>>
 >>>>>
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 >
 >Hi,
 >
                 I had a similar problem with an 8.2 install with my box.
  It would pick up my IDE interface but not the Adaptec SCSI (PCI).  The
machine would never boot past the IDE drive. I then discovered that if
one removed the plug from the mains socket and repowered the machine
would operate correctly. My thoughts were that on ATX machines the power
is not removed from the PCI buss due to the soft off option so any
configuration registers in peripherals that were not cleared to the
defaults from the last shutdown may contain values that would not allow
the machine to boot or perhaps cause a peripheral to give an error.
Removing all the power I have assumed would invoke the hard reset of all
peripheral chips setting them to safe defaults thus the machine would
then boot. I cured the problem by using the older Adaptec kernel driver
which may (I am assuming here) set the registers back to the default
state before shutting down compltely.  This problem did not manifest
itself when I booted Win98.

Just my two pennyworth.



                             Colin Close


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