HEAR HEAR!! Well spoken!
On Saturday 24 November 2001 03:17 pm, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: > No you are approaching this the wrong way. > > The DVD version is touted as containing other "packages" available to > the end user. > > As a result many people purchase this package expecting ALL of those > listed applications to be available on the DVD. > > This is what leaves the "ripped off" feeling. > > It would have been far better NOT to have included these demo packages > or at least not have listed them the way your marketing people have as > an enticement to purchase the Prosuite. > > What you are doing is effectively making everyone feel short changed. > > That said, yes you can provide bundled in commercial packages at added > cost on additional cds provided the end user is fully cognizant of what > they are getting. > > A "Game release" version of Linux should not only be tailored to be > "game friendly" but ideally should include a full title or two, even if > this brings up the price. Eh, wait, that's exactly what you did! > > Mandrake is in a unique position, in that it can negociate deals with > the producers to provide fully bundled in apps at a low cost. When you > list extra applications as "included", this is what we expect. The > assumption is that the added cost is to pay for these apps. > > As an end user, if I'm popping extra money for a "pro" version or the > like, the first thing I do is look to see what is included. I did this > when looking at the Pro-suite release... > > Oooh it looked nice, all those extra apps listed in the matrix. > > Well I get the DVD product only to find that there really ARE NO extra > apps, other than the few Mandrakized RPM's for the free apps already > available on the internet. > > Hmmm. Not a good buy IMHO. > > If I'd have been told that I could get the 3CD set, but for 20.00 more > I'd get another CD with the Mandrakized RPM's, I'd have gone for the > latter and felt pretty good about it. > > As it is, sorry Civilme, Mandrake's marketing people don't "get it". > > Remember I'm merely voicing my displeasure. This represents a minimum of > 100 or so people who feel likewise but never bother posting messages > about this. > > Pointing to other releases is also a non-sequitor, who cares? > > I'm only going by what is posted on Mandrake's web site which is > misleading. > > -JMS > > |-----Original Message----- > |From: civileme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 3:57 PM > |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mike & Tracy Holt' > |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |Subject: Re: [expert] Extras in the DVD release > | > |On Saturday 24 November 2001 10:29 am, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: > |> Yeap, that's why the Prosuite DVD leaves a bad "taste". > |> > |> The source RPM's are included, which is nice, but aside from already > |> free freebies, the DVD only gives you Mandrakized RPM's for the > |> programs I listed. > |> > |> Yeah it's nice that the RPM's are included for Realplayer, but since > |> it's a free release, it really should have been packaged in the > |> original release, etc. > |> > |> -JMS > |> > |> |-----Original Message----- > |> |From: Mike & Tracy Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > |> |Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2001 12:30 PM > |> |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > |> |Subject: Re: [expert] Extras in the DVD release > |> | > |> | > |> | > |> |WHAT????? Why would they package demos on disk and advertise it as > |> |part of the distribution? I specifically commented on this in > |> |writing to sales and the lack of comment back lead me to > | > |believe that > | > |> |they had somehow included full versions. Maybe it was a > | > |little much > | > |> |to expect, but I think that's false advertising. When you look at > |> |the comparison between the different packages, it's made to sound > |> |like you're getting something more by buying the bigger packages. > |> |The only thing this helps > |> |is a person with a dialup connection - in which case, buying a > |> |prosuite > |> |dvd with server software isn't necessary anyway (how are > | > |you going to > | > |> |run a server on dialup????) > |> | > |> |This is the third time I've fallen for this - I'm trying to support > |> |linux, and feel like I've been ripped off! > |> | > |> |Needless to say, I've got a dvd coming in the mail and hearing the > |> |all the commercial apps are just time-bombed or demos is really > |> |annoying. Mike
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