On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 13:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi, > > there's a big problem with the way a mailing list handles mails and > the > way different MUAs handle mailing list mails. The least common > denominator is that we should only reply to the mailing list and not > to > anybody else, we also shouldn't post to more than one list by one > email. > > Let me explain my point of view. > > Some mailing lists are open mailing lists, but most mailing lists > require subscription. However, not all mailing lists are based on > mailman, but most are. > > For mailman mailing lists it's possible to prevent sending duplicated > messages. The drawback then is, that we will receive the mail that was > sent to us directly only, IOW this mail doesn't contain mailing list > headers. > > Not all MUAs behave in the same manner. There are different ways to > handle filters and even to invoke a mailing list reply. I for example > use Claws and Evolution. Claws invokes mailing list replies by the > "Reply" option, while Evolution does it using the "Group Reply" > option. > Regarding the way a mailing list reply is invoked, Evolution most of > the > times handles it better than Claws does, if we don't receive > duplicated > messages. OTOH Claws handles some other issues better than Evolution > does and even this issue comes with variations. > > However, IMO it's important to find the least common denominator that > works for most MUAs. For mailing lists the rule is, that most of the > times a reply should be send to the mailing list only. There are just > a > few exceptions when it makes sense to Cc and those exceptional cases > could be handled automatically, if the mailing list doesn't overwrites > the Reply-To header. In such a case Claws does behave better than > Evolution. It's possible to always send a mail to the list and not > send > a copy, if a sender didn't use a Reply-To header, but if a Reply-To > header is used, the reply will be send to the list and to the Reply-To > address, assumed the mailing list doesn't overwrite the Reply-To > header. > > So, the major issue is, that different MUAs behave different and that > even mailing lists using mailman, could have different settings, even > settings a user can't set up by the account settings, such as e.g. how > the list handles the Reply-To header. > > The approach "my needs are the most important needs and my MUA does it > the one and only right way" is ignorant. Communities should care about > things in common. > > It's common sense to send a mail to just one mailing list and to send > a > reply to the mailing list only. There are exceptions, but those are > very > seldom for user lists, so they are unimportant for the common sense > and > as pointed out, it's possible to handle the Cc'ing smarter, when using > > Regards, > Ralf
Since this mailing list requires a subscription, I will address my responses to the mailing list, so that everybody benefits from the answers. Will the mailman ignore/bitbucket those messages that the source address is not subscribed? -JM
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