I suspect that the best thing all round is to take this to the evolution-hackers list since this is primarily a users list.
P. On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 13:14 -0400, Andrew Montalenti wrote: > I've been thinking about a way I could take Art's advice and make my > criticism more constructive. The only thing I can think of is by > volunteering my own time to organize a "bug squash" day for Evolution. > Is there already something like this scheduled? If not, what's the best > way for me to organize it? What wiki should I use? (I notice one on > go-evolution.org and one on live.gnome.org -- which one's better?) > > I'm not a formal evo developer, but have enough C, GTK+ and GObject > knowledge to hack around, albeit probably at a slower speed than > full-time GNOME hackers. Anyone else who has software experience and > would have some time to volunteer to this? I'm thinking it could be on > an upcoming weekend, to accomodate people's work schedules. > > Also, what time zone are the core Evolution developers in? > > Andrew > > On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 12:55 -0400, Andrew Montalenti wrote: > > Art, > > > > [reply below] > > > > On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 12:35 -0400, Art Alexion wrote: > > > While I am as frustrated as you with some of the bugs and regressions > > > that you mention, I don't think it is constructive, or even in your > > > self interest, to take such a scolding and tattling tone with people, > > > many of whom volunteer, to provide you with software for free. > > > > I certainly appreciate all the effort that has gone into Evolution over > > the years, and have gotten much utility out of using it. > > > > Free software or not, there are basic standards for software releases > > and engineering that should apply across the industry. Evolution isn't > > just in competition with other Free e-mail clients like Thunderbird or > > Balsa. It's in competition with proprietary e-mail clients as well, > > like Outlook and GMail. > > > > The purpose of Free Software is not to provide "barely good enough" or > > "barely usable" software for no cost. The purpose of Free Software is > > not to abandon all software engineering practices so that software is > > released in an ad-hoc way. The purpose of Free Software is not to > > develop functionality in a vacuum, without considering users' interests > > and requirements. > > > > Many open source products released throughout the years have shown that > > Free Software can be *better*, and be *Free*. These are not > > countervailing trade-offs. We should strive for providing *better* > > software, developed in the open, and with source freely available. It's > > a complete cop-out to say, "Well, this is Free Software, so you have no > > right to complain." > > > > GNOME is a software community like any other, filled with users who have > > choices. Users can abandon GNOME software if it frustrates them and > > does not make their life easier. They can abandon it for other Free > > Software choices, or they can abandon it for proprietary software. In > > the former case, you've lost a user, and in the latter case, you've lost > > much more than just a user. So listening to these complaints, even if > > they do have a "scolding or tattling tone", is imperative for the health > > of the community. > > > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > Evolution-list mailing list > Evolution-list@gnome.org > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list _______________________________________________ Evolution-list mailing list Evolution-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list
