On Wed, 2007-08-29 at 09:41 -0600, Robin Laing wrote: > Morgan Read wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 14:10 +1200, Morgan Read wrote: > > ... > >> This is what I'm doing: > >> 1 Create Folder under On This Computer called XTrash > >> 2 Unhide deleted mail in a folder (my Inbox) > >> 3 Create an Advance Search Find Now function for the folder and find all > >> the deleted mail > >> 4 Select all to high light the deleted mail > >> 5 Right click on the high-lighted and deleted may and select Move To > >> Folder... from the menu and select the just created XTrash folder as the > >> destination folder > >> 6 Hay presto! The mail has been copied and not moved!!! > >> > >> How do I go about succeeding to do what I want, which is to move the > >> deleted mail to the folder called XTrash so that it is nowhere else but > >> XTrash? > > > > Any ideas, comments? > > > > On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:55 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 10:53 +1200, Morgan Read wrote: > >>> On Fri, 2007-08-24 at 08:42 +0100, Pete Biggs wrote: > > ... > >> Well why don't you use an archival system rather than mucking around > >> with deleted mail? I've never understood the mindset that leads to > >> "I've pressed delete, but I actually still want to keep it" - if that's > >> the case, don't delete it. > > Because in every other computer user environment where there is a > > "Trash", delete means "move to the Trash folder" - try highlighting a > > icon on the gnome desktop and hit delete, where does it go - the Trash > > folder. > > > > And, I'm not sure which mindset is less understandable - one where > > "delete" means "move to the Trash folder" or one where "delete" means > > "hide" the item... > >>> - moving mail out of Trash into an > >>> archive doesn't seem to work, > >>> > >> Why don't you just set up a message filter with a search criteria of > >> 'Match All' and an action of 'Copy to Folder'. Then you will have a > >> copy of every email you ever receive and you can delete and purge to > >> your hearts content without having to worry about trash folders. > > Because I don't want umpteen copies of every concievable message in my > > email client - I just one copy which I know where it is, whether I > > believe I've finished with or still got something to do. > > > >> It was originally - but then lots of people grouched that they couldn't > >> find the trash folder so it got moved to be amongst the normal folders. > >> Also, I know you don't use IMAP, but there is a Trash folder for each > >> individual IMAP account, and that would be confusing if they were all in > >> 'Search Folders'. > > Hmm, more logical approach would be to allow "Search Folders" to be > > nested within the other folder hierarchies... > > > >>> So, I'm trying to moving the (un-hidden) deleted mail from > >>> folders to an archive folder - except they're not moved; they're copied! > >> - and then deleted - same effect as moving. In fact, I can't think of > >> an instance within mail handling where a 'move' isn't implemented as > >> 'copy and delete' - it's just so much safer. What you are really > > Ah, NO - and then NOT deleted! They're still there!!! > > > >> grouching about is the fact that the messages are marked as deleted > >> rather than being removed from existence when the messages are 'moved'. > > Well I don't really care whether they're marked as delted or moved to a > > Trash folder - what I'm confused about is that when one "moves" a > > message marked as delted it isn't moved, it's copied - so, I'm using up > > twice the disk space for that messge as I was before I tried to move it! > > > > I think at this point it's time to say: "perhaps we've lost our way", so > > I've re-posted the order of events from my first post to the head of > > this post, just so nobody has to read to the end of this post to get the > > point - of course if they want to they can, and then go round again... > > > > :-) > > > > Regards, > > M. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Morgan, > > I understand your frustration. When we were forced to Exchange server > (Only Mapi, no imap or pop) I started using Evolution. I was shocked > when a few months later I get a call from the admins to clear out my > exchange server folder as I was running out of space. Ouch. > > I thought my little filters that were "moving" my mail to my local > machine was actually "moving" the messages. What it was doing was > marking the messages as moved and deleted but not "expunging" them. > > Now I have dropped the filters and just drag and copy all my messages to > my local export folder. I then expunge the "Inbox" twice. I do it > twice because I have found that it won't actually remove all the > "deleted" messages on the first time, every time. I blame exchange > server for this issue. > > I now only use Evolution to get my mail off of Exchange server and > export it to Thunderbird. >
Thanks Robin, good to know I'm not alone. M. -- Getting errors "There are problems with the signature" (or similar)? Update your system by installing certificates from CAcert Inc, see here: http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/BrowserClients?#head-259758ec5ba51c5205cfb179cf60e0b54d9e378b Morgan Read NEW ZEALAND <mailto:mstuffATreadDOTorgDOTnz> fedora: Freedom Forever! http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Overview "By choosing not to ship any proprietary or binary drivers, Fedora does differ from other distributions. ..." Quote: Max Spevik http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/17/177220 RMS on fedora: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FreeSoftwareAnalysis/FSF
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