On Friday, January 10, 2025 at 4:36:49 AM UTC-7 John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 2:04 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: *>> There sure as hell is a logical paradox if you only use length contraction and ignore time dilation and the resultant disagreement about simultaneity. The garage man took a snapshot at the instant he saw BOTH the garage doors were closed, and it clearly shows the car was entirely in the garage. But the car driver also took a snapshot at the instant he saw BOTH the garage doors were closed, and it clearly shows the car had left the garage. With just length contraction you have a profound logical paradox. With length contraction AND time dilation you just have an odd situation.* *> What exactly is the paradox you allege?* *You've got a photograph of the car, allegedly taken at the instant both the front and the back of the garage doors were closed, and you can clearly see that the car WAS entirely in the garage at that instant, and you've also got another photograph of the car, allegedly taken at the instant both the front and the back of the garage doors were closed, and you can clearly see that the car was NOT in the garage. So You've got rock solid evidence the car DID fit in the garage and you've got rock solid evidence the car DID NOT fit in the garage, and that is a logical paradox IF AND ONLY IF the two pictures really were taken simultaneously.* I never saw any pictures. What the F are you talking about? Sure, if they existed and taken simultaneously, you've got a paradox. The trouble with using simultaneity to prove otherwise is that something is claimed, but nothing is ever calculated to make the point. In any event, if you believe in the LT, you can establish the car doesn't fit from the pov of the car frame, so if you believe in SR, you have to conclude that if such pictures could be taken, they could NOT be simultaneous. AG *Alan, couldn't you have figured this out by yourself? At this point I have to wonder if understanding Special Relativity is your primary goal or if demonstrating to other people that you're always right and smarter than everybody else is your primary goal. * Why should I spend my time proving I am smarter than some assholes who post here, such as persons who believe decaying atoms in our bodies create whole universes? AG *> What is the odd situation you allege?* *I flat out refused to believe you don't already know the answer to that question. * fow -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/574e933a-1f4f-4623-9364-7558de9c29fcn%40googlegroups.com.
