Le dim. 15 déc. 2024, 15:26, John Clark <[email protected]> a écrit :
> > On Sun, Dec 15, 2024 at 8:31 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > * > Above a certain speed, since the car is length contracted from the pov > of the garage frame, the car will fit in the garage,* > > > > *Yes* > >> * > and waiting some time, then being in a different reference frame, it >> could hit the back door. * > > > *No because length contraction is not the only thing that happens when the > car goes fast, the faster the car goes the greater the discrepancy between > what the car driver considers to be simultaneous (such as both the front > and the back of the car being in the garage) and what the garage man > considers to be simultaneous. I repeat, above a certain speed there's NO > frame of reference in which a car shaped hole appears on the back door of > the garage. * > > *> why is it claimed that lack of simultaneity between frames solves the >> problem, since we're only considering simultaneity in garage frame where >> the car fits? AG * > > > *The garage man** says that due to length contraction the car will fit in > the garage, and to prove it he says that both doors were closed while > simultaneously both the front and the back of the car were in the garage. > But the car driver disagrees, he insists the car has not fit in the garage > because those two events were **not** simultaneous. Everybody agrees > there was a time when the front of the car was in the garage, and everybody > agrees there was a time when the back of the car was in the garage, but > they disagree if those two events happened at the same time that both doors > were closed. * > > >> *> It's crazy you're still on this... wtf is your definition of fits in >> which doesn't involve simultaneously having rear and front of the car in >> the garage? * > > > *Huh? That is exactly my definition of "fitting", and that's exactly why > they disagree if the car has fit. * > John, I'm talking to Alan here, this thread is so messed up with BS from Alan and Cosmin, it's hard to know where in stupidland we are. 🤔😁 *John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* > ida > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv35uehNqQSEjk9FDLYkbRZu6A%2BJdU8dN%3DCGUu%2BHGFqgqw%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv35uehNqQSEjk9FDLYkbRZu6A%2BJdU8dN%3DCGUu%2BHGFqgqw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAMW2kAoyi1GkkX8DcbKHoyBBLZM%3D-iHBjoUOzFgnt%3DdC1-z0LA%40mail.gmail.com.
