On Sunday, June 7, 2020 at 6:56:04 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 6:25 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > *Superdeterminism is typically discarded swiftly in any discussion of >> quantum foundations.* > > > Yes, and Superdeterminism is swiftly discarded for a very good reason. > Occam's razor says the best physics theory that explains the facts is the > one that's simplest, but that doesn't just mean the one that has the > simplest laws but also has the simplest initial conditions. The initial > conditions needed for Superdeterminism to work are as far from being simple > as it is possible to get; out of the infinite number of ways the universe > could have started out in only one of them is set up in exactly the right > way such that things are really deterministic but fool us into thinking > they are not even after 13.8 billion years of cosmic evolution. > > Theosts answer the question "why does the universe exist?" by saying > "because God created it", and I have a problem with that because it > immediately suggests another obvious question that they have no answer for > , "why does God exist?". I have pretty much the same problem with > Superdeterminism; why did the universe start out in the only initial > condition in which even after churning for 13.8 billion years it is still > able to make fools of us? Superdeterministic theory is about as useful > for increasing our understanding as saying things are the way they are now > because things are the way they are now. > > John K Clark >
As I see it and explain above, superdeterminism is just a way of formulating nonlocal hidden variables, This means they have no causal or signalling properties that can be measured. This means if one takes a purely epistemic view of QM there is really nothing here that physically exists. LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1247c964-0538-4431-82ae-283c0eeeb39bo%40googlegroups.com.
