On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 11:29:02 AM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 6/6/2020 5:13 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Saturday, June 6, 2020 at 6:10:46 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 5 Jun 2020, at 23:36, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> ref (article by Jim Baggott): >> >> >> https://medium.com/@MassimoPigliucci/the-copenhagen-confusion-611f31cc27e1 >> >> >> https://twitter.com/philipcball/status/1268950876405850112 >> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fphilipcball%2Fstatus%2F1268950876405850112&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNHyoDxbukkDIr-ioIp_UjGFzLHeIg> >> >> Jim Baggott Retweeted >> Philip Ball @philipcball >> · >> "The “collapse of the wavefunction” was never part of the Copenhagen >> interpretation because the wavefunction isn’t interpreted realistically." I >> have been trying to get this point across for ages; I really hope Jim has >> more success. >> >> Quote Tweet >> >> Jim Baggott @JimBaggott >> >> No, the Copenhagen interpretation does not entail the collapse of the >> wavefunction. >> >> >> Then, if I look at a spin in the 1/sqrt(2) (up + down), with a {up, down} >> measuring device, I am myself in a superposition state, if the wave does >> not collapse. >> Non collapse entails many world, or better many dreams. In that case >> there is no collapse, but also no waves needed, as it has to be explained >> by 2+2=4 & Co. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> >> >> The best comment by a physicists (Associate Professor, Monash University) > in the discussion thread: > > > The wavefunction is not a physical thing - so whether it collapses is > irrelevant. > > > At least one physicist not brainwashed into the current religion. > > > Baggott and also Hosenfelder seem to be endorsing an epistemic > interpretation like QBism, but they don't directly discuss the problems > with it. > > Brent >
Can you list some of these problems? AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/2046c359-a7b0-421b-b542-d7eba541060ao%40googlegroups.com.
