On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 10:01 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yes, and Superdeterminism is swiftly discarded for a very good reason. >> Occam's razor says the best physics theory that explains the facts is the >> one that's simplest, but that doesn't just mean the one that has the >> simplest laws but also has the simplest initial conditions. The initial >> conditions needed for Superdeterminism to work are as far from being simple >> as it is possible to get; out of the infinite number of ways the universe >> could have started out in only one of them is set up in exactly the right >> way such that things are really deterministic but fool us into thinking >> they are not even after 13.8 billion years of cosmic evolution. Theosts >> answer the question "why does the universe exist?" by saying "because God >> created it", and I have a problem with that because it immediately suggests >> another obvious question that they have no answer for, "why does God >> exist?". I have pretty much the same problem with Superdeterminism; why did >> the universe start out in the only initial condition in which even after >> churning for 13.8 billion years it is still able to make fools of us? >> Superdeterministic theory is about as useful for increasing our >> understanding as saying things are the way they are now because things are >> the way they are now. >> John K Clark >> > > > > *Statistical non-independence is less restrictive than statistical > independence * > What are you talking about? If at the Big Bang the position or momentum of just one Quark or Gluon or Electron or Photon was out of place by even a infinitesimally small amount then today after 13.8 billion years of cosmic evolution the universe would be unable to fool us over and over and over again into thinking things were non-deterministic or non-local or non-realistic when in actuality that was not the case. That is as restrictive as a universe can be! Why is the universe putting such an immense effort into fooling us, what's the point of this *HUGE* cosmic conspiracy? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv0OgFDcfNA%3DPQax3JTPwrqtWTHneG_46kGu7C8BnAN-YQ%40mail.gmail.com.

