> On 10 May 2019, at 09:12, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > When someone says "consciousness is not a material thing" I think of Wile E. > Coyote. > > Consciousnesses need something (matter) to hang on to. Consciousnesses just > don't go floating around willy-nilly. The Coyote finds that out when he finds > out he is hanging on to nothing, and looks down.
That is nice Aristotelian poetry. But you just repeat you ontological commitment in a material world, where no physicist has a consistent theory of it, nor even have tried to test its existence. What the Aspect experience has only shown, is that IF there is a physicaly reality then it can’t be a boolean reality (which would have already annoyed Aristotle). Then with Mechanism, “Matter” invocation needs to add some magic incompatible with YD+CT. It is like invoking a God to impeach testing simpler theories which do not commit a so strong ontological commitment. Bruno > > @philipthrift > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 4:45:24 PM UTC-5, Terren Suydam wrote: > Thanks for the trip down memory lane, but I don't see your point. > > On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:43 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 4:31:11 PM UTC-5, Terren Suydam wrote: > Since consciousness is not a material thing, ... > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnMvj9HETZw > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnMvj9HETZw> > > > @philipthrift > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/aeb38eca-2f64-47f6-b66f-7a8497428913%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/aeb38eca-2f64-47f6-b66f-7a8497428913%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/67773F41-93D0-4235-954C-E72B03BFB8EB%40ulb.ac.be.

