> On 10 May 2019, at 09:12, Philip Thrift <[email protected]> wrote:
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> 
> When someone says "consciousness is not a material thing" I think of Wile E. 
> Coyote.
> 
> Consciousnesses need something (matter) to hang on to. Consciousnesses just 
> don't go floating around willy-nilly. The Coyote finds that out when he finds 
> out he is hanging on to nothing, and looks down. 


That is nice Aristotelian poetry. But you just repeat you ontological 
commitment in a material world, where no physicist has a consistent theory of 
it, nor even have tried to test its existence. What the Aspect experience has 
only shown, is that IF there is a physicaly reality then it can’t be a boolean 
reality (which would have already annoyed Aristotle).

Then with Mechanism, “Matter” invocation needs to add some magic incompatible 
with YD+CT.
It is like invoking a God to impeach testing simpler theories which do not 
commit a so strong ontological commitment.

Bruno




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> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 4:45:24 PM UTC-5, Terren Suydam wrote:
> Thanks for the trip down memory lane, but I don't see your point.
> 
> On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 5:43 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
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> On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 4:31:11 PM UTC-5, Terren Suydam wrote:
> Since consciousness is not a material thing, ...
>  
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnMvj9HETZw 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnMvj9HETZw>
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