On Monday, January 27, 2014 5:34:04 PM UTC, [email protected] wrote: > > > On Monday, January 27, 2014 4:12:00 PM UTC, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> >> Ghibbsa, >> >> I'm sorry to say I don't follow your alternative gravity effect here and >> see no source for the effect and thus it seems entirely speculative to me. >> I'd need some evidence that there was something reasonable that might >> produce it OR that it would account well for dark matter. >> >> In any case there are a number of alternate gravitation theories proposed >> in which the force of gravity varies with conditions such as that of John >> Moffat and others. So far as I know these all have problems.... >> >> Edgar >> > > Perhaps I could state it more simply as an infinitesimal slowing of the > rate gravity reduces with increasing distance, that progressively increases > over increasing distances. Insignificant for a single particle, but > compounded for increasing mass. Because the bias slows the rate of decrease > of gravity with distance AND progressively intensifies over increasing > distances from the source of the gravity, the effect would be to > progressively load the deficit at the tail end gravity furthest from the > source. > > As this effect intensifies, the bias nearer the source loses the effect > entirely. But because the original slight bias does exist, and because it > progressively intensifies further from the source, and because that means > the deficit is progressively pushed further toward the tail end (because > the bias intensifies further out), there will come a point, where the rate > at which gravity lessens is increasing faster than predicted beyond a > certain line. And because the thesis is for a slight bias that actually > slows the rate down, the fact this corresponds to an increased rate of > descrease after a point, is progressively exacberated by an increased bias > for slowing the other side of the point given there is now less tension the > other way due to gravity falling away more steeply the other side of the > line. > > So the progressive effect would be that gravity levels off more than > predicted right out at the edge of the galaxy, and what had been a smooth > decrease in its effect, transforms into a steepening gradient over a > shorter distance. > > All which would create not only the dark matter effect, but also the > observed symmetries of the effect, in relation to the clumps of denser > ordinary matter in the galaxy. > > It depends on one tiny effect. It makes predictions that feasibly could be > checked. It doesn't have the problems of the other gravity solutions. It > doesn't need a 'cause' for the bias, because that's the conjecture part. > > 'course speculative, but you're rather a cheeky bugger to be protesting of > that :o) I think you should at least be willing to make the effort to > understand so simple an idea. > Second thoughts - don't bother....it's not a good idea, nor something I personally believe in. I just remembered it thrown out in an earlier conversation. Just a little it was demonstration ideas at this sort of level are pretty easy to conjure up.....because everything about them is so easy to vary (to borrow a good idea from Deutsch)
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