Liz, I've never called anyone on this list "stupid", not a single time. You claim I have "spent the last week or so calling everyone stupid". That is simply not true so one wonders why you would say it?
Edgar On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:57:53 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > On 16 January 2014 05:57, Telmo Menezes <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> From what I could observe, Edgar came here with his ideas (which I >> mostly don't agree with, but that's fine). He was never the one >> initiating personal attacks. Also he's using his real name, while >> being attacked by someone using a pseudonym. I have nothing against >> pseudonyms and I use them too, but I don't think it's fair play to do >> the sort of thing freqflyer did while using one. >> >> I disagree that Edgar is "never the one initiating personal attacks". I > doubt if anyone would have "retaliated in kind" if he hadn't constantly > been making derogatory remarks about everyone who disagrees with him. I've > observed many heated arguments on this list and others in which the > participants, while obviously passionately believing their views to be > right and their opponents to be a crock, nevertheless manage to preserve > politeness. Generally people also try to put their ideas across clearly, > trying different tacks if one is clearly not getting across. They geneally > respect the other person's viewpoint and make a serious effort to > understand it - and occasionally even realise that they are wrong and the > other person is right (I've even done it myself...) > > We have had none of the above courtesies from Edgar. His explanations are > woolly and one note, with no attempt at re-presenting them with, say, > mathematical models or meaningful analogies. He is constantly insinuating > that people who disagree must be stupid, and sometimes saying it outright. > He clearly doesn't "get" the problems others (from Einstein onwards) have > perceived with his "universal time" idea, and furthermore makes no effort > to do so. He is constantly patronising, smug and up himself. I would almost > say he has adopted the bad points of Isaac Newton while ignoring the good > ones (kind of in a similar vein to the reasoning "they laughed at Galileo > and Einstein, and they're laughing at me, so I must be a genius too!") > > I don't know about the name-vs-pseudonym business. I wouldn't have posted > Edgar's lonely hearts thing myself (well, I hope I wouldn't!) but I can see > why someone would be tempted to do so. Edgar has spent the last week or so > calling everyone stupid and was in the process of nitpicking FF about a > thought experiment, rather than answering the question honestly, and that > evasiveness and refusal to answer honest questions coupled with his usual > smugness was no doubt very irritating. (Also, if FF has encounted EO on > other forums, as seems to be the case, there may be some history we're > unaware of.) > > But none of that excuses posting personal details, I agree. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
