On 14 Oct 2012, at 23:27, Russell Standish wrote:
On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 04:44:11PM -0400, Roger Clough wrote:
"Computational Autopoetics" is a term I just coined to denote
applying basic concepts
of autopoetics to the field of comp. You mathematicians are free to
do it more justice
than I can. I cannot guarantee that the idea hasn't already been
exploited, but I have
seen no indication of that.
The idea is this: that we borrow a basic characteristic of
autopoetics, namely that life is
essentially not a thing but the act of creation. This means that we
define
life as the creative act of generating structure from some input
data. By this
pramatic definition, it is not necessarily the structure that is
produced that is alive, but
life consists of the act of creating structure from assumedly
structureless input data.
Life is not a creation, but instead is the act of creation.
So any self-organised system should be called alive then? Sand dunes,
huricanes, stars, galaxies. Hey, we've just found ET!
I am not sure a galaxy, or a sand dune has a "self", unlike a cell, or
a person.
The self is directly related to the Dx = "xx" trick, for me.
Actually, I was just reading an interview with my old mate Charley
Lineweaver in New Scientist, and he was saying the same thing :).
If life is such a creative act rather than a creation, then it
seems to fit what
I have been postulating as the basic inseparable ingredients of
life: intelligence
and free will.
I don't believe intelligence is required for creativity. Biological
evolution is undeniably creative.
Is life more creative than the Mandelbrot set?, or than any "creative
set" in the sense of Post (proved equivalent with Turing universality)?
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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