On 11 Sep 2012, at 14:52, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Hi Roger,
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:36:47 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote:
Hi Craig Weinberg
The Creator is not created. So no problem.
Why not just say The Universe is not created. So no problem?
You are right. "God create the universe" can be an explanation, or a
progress toward an explanation only if the notion of God in use is
conceptually simpler than the universe.
I think Arithmetic (with a big A, it means the whole set of first
order arithmetical true propositions, to fix the thing) is like that.
Bruno
What does the idea of an uncreated Creator add that has any
explanatory power? Would the idea of a Creator seem obvious if the
Bible didn't exist?
What if you found out that the Bible was actually written by
people's demons who mixed truth with lies over centuries to cause
confusion, oppression, and cruelty. If I were Satan, why wouldn't I
tell people that I am God and make them write a book which causes
fear, superstition, and misery (even if the cost is that it has some
very good side effects as well)? Not to suggest that you doubt your
faith, but logically, the idea of a Bible seems contrary to the
purposes of a Creator who endows his creations with direct
capacities to make sense of his creation (including themselves).
Does he want us to know he exists or doesn't he? If so, why write a
bunch of crazy ambiguous scriptures that vary from place to place?
If not, why allow such blasphemous confusions to thrive?
Craig
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