On Saturday, September 13, 2025 at 9:20:03 PM UTC-6 Brent Meeker wrote:



On 9/13/2025 12:42 PM, Alan Grayson wrote:



*Your problem with the turnaround scenario is that you have apparently 
forgotten high school physics, where velocity is a vector having magnitude 
and direction, and **acceleration, which you want to avoid, is DEFINED as a 
change in velocity. Hence, **anything subject to a gravitational field is 
generally accelerating. *

In GR free-fall is not accelerating.  It is following the geodesic 
(straightest possible) path thru spacetime.

Brent


*You're not listening. Firstly, you claim you want to solve the TP without 
GR and without accelerating, yet you're invoking GR right here, directly. 
Secondly, I know about E's happy thought. But frankly I don't see how 
anyone can claim there's no accelerating when it's staring you in the face? 
I wonder how E resolved his happiest thought when accelerating surely 
exists in GR! It's still DEFINED as change in velocity AG* 

*Also, you're invoking GR when you claim there are no forces, presumably 
thinking that since F=ma, there can't be any acceleration in GR. I know 
that E's major insight was that gravity isn't a force, so invoking this 
insight is presumably why you claim there's no acceleration in the 
turnaround. But there is! It's undeniable. I can't find any error in your 
triplet scenario. AG* 

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