On Saturday, September 13, 2025 at 8:10:50 PM UTC-6 Alan Grayson wrote:
On Saturday, September 13, 2025 at 5:02:57 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 9:45 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote: * >> what about polarization measurements?* *> We've been over this same ground before, many many times.* *And now we're going to do it yet again. * *> The MWI claims that they all must happen, and that's why the interpretation invokes "many worlds". When I ask the source of this claim, you've repeatedly pointed to S's equation informing you of that. But in the polarizer experiment, there is no such equation to appeal to. So how can your claim be valid in this case? AG * *I've already answered that question in my last post, and in about a dozen posts before that! I'll do it one last time and make it as simple as I can. * *The problem with your "explanation" is that it doesn't address my question! **I doubt you are aware of the GAP between your alleged answer to my question, and the content of my question. **I want to know the justification for the claim that every outcome of an experiment MUST be realized in some world. I really don't see any connection between my question and your alleged explanation. Moreover, I've never received a plausible answer to where the energy comes from these worlds to exist. I can only recall the fact, if it is a fact, that GR does not conserve energy globally. This seems to me an insufficiency in GR, not an explanation for the source of this energy. And the energy required to be created is clearly HUGE for ordinary everyday events, such as turning a car left or right. And how far does it extend? So, IMO, the MWI, utterly fails to pass the smell test. I'd like you to try to connect your answer directly to my questions, which so far, you have been unable to do. AG* *For example; your usual answer discusses realism, determinism and locality. How is this related to, and in any way answers my question? AG * *Schrodinger's Equation describes how fermions behave quantum mechanically. A macroscopic object, such as a polarizer, is made out of fermions. There is no rotational angle that Schrodinger's Equation forbids a macroscopic polarizer to be in. Thus the essence of many worlds can be boiled down to just 6 words, "Schrodinger's Equation means what it says". Even though it's redundant, for clarification it might be wise to add 10 more "measured and unmeasured objects obey the same laws of physics". * * John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* *`~$* *3* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/4cd29dcc-7e87-4c8b-b887-2a18e2b436c8n%40googlegroups.com.
