On Saturday, August 16, 2025 at 5:45:18 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Sat, Aug 16, 2025 at 3:27 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*>> Because space is expanding and accelerating, galaxies that have a 
redshift greater than about 1.7 are today moving away from us faster than 
the speed of light, so we can never reach them or even send a message to 
them, they are beyond our causal horizon; however today we can still see 
them because at the time the light from them was emitted the galaxy was 
closer to us than it is now, and back then it was receding away from us 
slower than it is now, slower than the speed of light. For the same reason 
today we can even detect the Cosmic Microwave Background even though it has 
a redshift of about 1100, but we could never send a message or influence 
anything that happens that far away.*


*> Since the CMB isn't receding, what is the physical interpretation of its 
huge red shift? AG *


*When we look at the Cosmic Microwave Background we're looking at a time 
about 380,000 years after the Big Bang when the universe cooled enough for 
electrons to become attached to atomic nuclei and to form neutral atoms 
which allowed the universe to become transparent. We're seeing light  that 
has been traveling toward us for 13.8 billion years, coming from regions 
that are now much farther away than 13.8 billion light years, not because 
they have moved through space but because space itself has expanded. *

*The physical interpretation of the CMB's redshift of 1100 is that since 
that time the linear distance of space has stretched by a factor of 1100, 
and so the volume of space has expanded by a factor of that number cubed, 
or about 1.3 billion.*

*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>* 


Do you think the red shift of the CMB implies a universe of finite volume? 
If not, why not? AG

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