On Monday, June 2, 2025 at 6:53:58 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

On Mon, Jun 2, 2025 at 8:11 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*> For a muon to know the time, it must be able to read its internal clock, 
which means it has self-reference, aka CONSCIOUSNESS!*


*So you believe that your alarm clock is conscious. I am skeptical of that 
claim although I can't prove that you're wrong.   *


*I am unsure what to believe. I don't believe an alarm clock is conscious. 
But with muons there's no discernable clock and yet, as you point out, 
something within seems to know the time, or behave as if it does. I'm 
pointing out the deep mystery with these muons and more generally with SR.  
AG*


*> Do you agree?*


*I think you already know the answer to that question. *


*I don't think you believe that an alarm clock is conscious, but you seem 
too comfortable in your inability to explain the time reality of a muon. I 
suppose you're not immune to just calculate predictions and leave it at 
that. AG *


* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*

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