On 5/13/2025 3:30 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Mon, May 12, 2025 at 4:47 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

        *>> There is absolutely nothing in Schroedinger's equation
        that says the amplitude of the universal quantum wave
        collapses to exactly 1 and is zero everywhere else when a
        measurement is made, there isn't even anything in it that
        explains what a "measurement" is. The rule you mention was
        added on by the Copenhagen people, so according to them there
        are two separate rules of physics, one set of the laws of
        physics is for things that are not being observed, and the
        other set of the laws of physics are for things that are being
        observed. Many Worlds advocates say there is only one set of
        the laws of physics. *

    /
    > And apparently that there is no such thing as a measurement
    leaving a system in an eigenstate of an observable.  This is will
    come as a surprise to many experimentalist./


*Your confusion arises, as always, because you are _assuming_ that only the electron must obey Schrodinger's Equation, _not_ the lab equipment needed to measure the electron, and most importantly _not_ the experimentalist who is looking at the measuring device; they still follow classical physics. That clumsy poorly defined assumption was just tacked on by the Copenhagen people because they were frightened by the logical consequence of not doing so. That's why Many Worlds is barebone no-nonsense Quantum Mechanics that contains everything that is necessary and not one bit more. As Richard Feynman said “nature isn't classical, dammit".*

I made no such assumption.  You're just making up objections.  Are you asserting that a measurement does *not* leave a system in an eigenstate of the variable measured?

Brent

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