NOTE that the J3400 NACS standard has the option to make the EVSE cordless just like the Type 2 chargers in Europe, where the public level 2 chargers are often a slender pole on the curb next to the road in between two parking spots, so you can plug your own cable into it from either slot. It will be interesting to see if we indeed get a similar situation here. NOTE that EU cords tell the charging station, how much current they can support, via the same pin that is used for Proximity between the cable and the vehicle. So, you can bring a light 16A cable if your vehicle has a small battery or charger and for charging at 32A or even 63A you bring the equivalent cable and it will tell the charger, obviously the EVSE has its own limit so most will not provide more than 32A but at 230V per phase and 3 phases available, you can draw up to 22kW which is impossible to achieve in the US with a single phase, even at the maximum 80A. (I have only seen 1 station that can deliver 63A 3-phase power, a whopping 43kW of AC charging - not many vehicles support this, so in practice 32A is the max charge current.)
On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 9:51 AM Jay Summet via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > Yes, in the US each L1 / L2 EVSE has a hard wired cable that ends with a > J1772 "gun". > > For public EVSE's the "bring your own (double ended) cable" makes a lot > of sense, but that's not what happens in the US. > > Jay > > On 10/9/24 12:45, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: > > Do all US EVSEs have permanently attached cables? > > > > I never had a J1772 EV back in the US, so I have no experience with them. > > > > We have a Hager wallbox (EVSE) in our garage. The cable is separate and > > plugs into the wallbox. If it ever wears out or gets damaged, it's super > > easy to replace, though not exactly cheap. > > > > All of the level 2 public charging points I've used have been the same - you > > supply your own cable. > > > > This is type 2 CCS, so maybe it's different that way. > > > > However, all of the higher power DC CCS2 charging I've seen so far has had > > permanently attached cables. Some of them are pretty imposing looking, as > > they can pour out up to 350kW. > > > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > I depend on these documents to be dependable. > > > > -- Anonymous > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
