Both vehicles will turn off the headlights (or radio or dome light etc.) if 
left on for more than ~15 minutes.

But... both had 12v accessory outlets that remained *on* when the car was off. 
Leaving a cellphone charger or other gadget plugged into them *would* run the 
battery down. Or, just leaving it parked for 2-3 weeks.

And if the battery ran down below 9-10v, the "immobilizer" alarm would disable 
the vehicle completely. Charging the 12v battery didn't work, and it could not 
be jump started. Turning the key to the "start" position would crank and start 
the engine, but as soon as you release the key to "run", the engine stopped, 
and an alarm message was displayed. The only option was to have it towed to the 
dealer. No kidding!

Lee
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Excellence does not require perfection. -- Henry James
But it *does* require attention to detail! -- Lee Hart
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Lee A. Hart https://www.sunrise-ev.com

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