Do the Tesla cars have ANY AC power source available?  If yes, how much power 
is available?

Jim Walls
j...@k6ccc.org



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From: "(-Phil-) via EV" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2024 09:56
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Cc: "(-Phil-)" <p...@ingineerix.com>
Subject: [EVDL] AC Power export for Teslas

I recently figured out a safe way to export power from any Tesla's charge
port.  I got HV DC power export working from the port at around 6kW, which
could then be fed into an inverter for AC power.

However, Tesla still instantly voids your warranty if you do this.  I have
a salvage Tesla, so it doesn't matter to me, but it really dashes any hope
of offering a product.

Tesla has always had this clause to void your warranty if "Using the
vehicle as a stationary power source".   (See:
https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/tesla-new-vehicle-limited-warranty-en-us.pdf
)

I decided to see if they modified the warranty for the Cybertruck, since it
has the AC power export feature built-in, and here's what they changed that
clause to: (only for Cybertruck) "Using the vehicle as a permanent,
stationary or long-term power source or backup".  So Technically any
"stationary" use still voids it!   They also don't bother to define what
"long-term" is.   (See:
https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/tesla-cybertruck-new-vehicle-limited-warranty-en-us.pdf
)

I'm not a lawyer, but I don't think they can void your warranty unless they
can prove your actions did the damage you are claiming under warranty
coverage.  (Per the Magnuson Moss Warranty Act, see:
https://www.ftc.gov/legal-library/browse/statutes/magnuson-moss-warranty-federal-trade-commission-improvements-act)
  Though that probably means they tell you to kick rocks and you have to
hire an attorney to fight them.  I'd be interested in opinions from any
Attorneys on the list?
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