I saw an announcement that Stellantis is bringing the Fiat 500e EV back to the US. IIRC, with a 40kWh pack on a now dedicated EV platform. That should make a compelling small car if they keep the cost low enough.
I think the collapse of demand in the Auto market means we will start seeing older Tesla Model 3's go for mid teens soon. That's a pretty compelling deal! I recently restored 2 salvage rear-wheel drive Model 3's with minimal work for around $9k each all-in for family. (a 2018 and a 2019) Both even have the full-self-driving option which costs what I have in them. Hard to beat that! Here are the pictures of the "worst" one, Before: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?salvage3a-before After: http://ingineerix.com/pic/?salvage3a-after All "bolt on" parts except for the windshield which I had a mobile guy install. Both the hood and bumper are aftermarket on ebay. Most all the parts are now available aftermarket for dirt cheap prices, and the ones that I would not buy, like the seatbelt tensioners, Tesla sells for a reasonable price and had them in stock. On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 11:47 AM Collin Kidder via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Well, GM is going to build the Bolt EUV again, supposedly starting next > year. As it turns out, the EUV was a much bigger deal than they thought it > would be and they probably could have kept selling them at the same rate if > they hadn't shut down the line to start building their new Ultium platform > (and, yes, larger) EVs. Some may argue that the EUV isn't exactly a small > car. It isn't that small but it's not really SUV sized either. It's > somewhere just a little smaller than an Equinox. I have one and am very > happy with it. The one big thing I'd want to change is the 55kw peak > charging rate. But, the upcoming 2025 or 2026 model year EUV will do 150kw > like their other Ultium cars. Then I might be tempted to trade up. > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2024 at 2:03 PM EV List Lackey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > On 19 Jun 2024 at 22:09, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote: > > > > > I also think we need more small EV options around the size of the Bolt > EV > > > and EUV. > > > > There were never very many, and now the US automakers only want to sell > > big, > > high-profit SUVs and pickups, electric or thermal. They seem to have > zero > > interest in offering small, nimble, efficient, affordable cars. > > > > What can you get there now? The current Nissan Leaf isn't really that > > small, IMO. By world standards the Tesla 3 and Y are large cars > > (D-segment). > > Can you still get the Fiat 500E? > > > > Lots of small, affordable EVs are being built in Europe and Asia, with > > more > > on the way for 2025 and 2026, but hardly any of them - or even their ICEV > > cousins - are offered in the US these days. It's almost like the early > > 1950s. You can have a big, lumbering beast, or you can have a bicycle. > > > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > Most of the trouble in this world has been caused by folks who > > can't mind their own business, because they have no business of > > their own to mind, any more than a smallpox virus has. > > > > --William Burroughs > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240620/9886500f/attachment.htm > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20240620/5e12bca2/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/