Well, you can call it a "mute point", does that mean we are done bickering? =) (Should be "moot" not "mute".) Doesn't really matter.
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 7:39 PM EV@TucsonEV <e...@tucsonev.com> wrote: > I agree that it is nowhere in the manual, but none the less the title of > the pdf refers to it as the Gen2_UMC_Manual. Weather it is legacy or not is > a mute point, Tesla identifies it as Gen2 UMC. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Rush Dougherty > > TucsonEV > > www.TucsonEV.com <http://www.tucsonev.com/> > > > > > > > > > > *From:* (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 20, 2023 6:21 PM > *To:* Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> > *Cc:* EV@TucsonEV <e...@tucsonev.com> > *Subject:* Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE > > > > Tesla refers to it everywhere publicly as a "mobile connector". Minor > change, but that's what they did. Note that the term "UMC" or "Universal > Mobile Connector" is seen nowhere in the manual text at all, nor is it > anywhere in their documentation. The URL doesn't matter, it could just be > legacy. > > > > On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 1:51 AM EV@TucsonEV via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > You'll note the Tesla link "gen 2 umc". > > https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/charging_docs/gen_2_umc/Gen2_UMC_Manual_en_US.pdf > So Tesla does keep the name Gen 2 UMC > > Best regards, > > Rush Dougherty > TucsonEV > www.TucsonEV.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of (-Phil-) via EV > > Sent: Monday, June 19, 2023 9:53 PM > > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > Cc: (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> > > Subject: Re: [EVDL] need new home ESVE > > > > No, the EU mobile connector (no longer called a UMC) is different for EU. > > The US one is only single-phase, our inlets are also only single-phase. > > The PCS is similar, except all 3 of the modules are connected in > parallel to the > > single- > > phase on the inlet. So on the older 20kW cars, it would be pumping 80A > @ 240V. > > (Would also accept up to 300V for ~22kW) > > > > The 3/Y and 2021+ S/X are all PCS, so that's got 2 or 3 modules capable > of 16A > > each > > depending on model, with the hi-spec config being 48A @ 240V. > > > > In the US it's pretty common for a house built in the last 20 years to > have 200A > > single- > > phase service. Residential power in the US almost never has anything > other than > > single-phase, and it's split with the neutral being the center tap, so 3 > wires > > come in, 2 > > are the 240V "hots" and one is neutral, so we can connect our 120V loads > to > > neutral > > and one of the "hots". > > > > On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 4:50?PM Evan Tuer via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > > > On Sun, Jun 18, 2023 at 11:59?PM EV@TucsonEV via EV > > > <ev@lists.evdl.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Lawrence - the current Tesla Mobile Connector (UMC GEN 2) > > > > > > > https://www.tesla.com/support/home-charging-installation/mobile-connec > > > tor > > > > Is only 32A capable. Scroll down to where "Charge rates for optional > > > > adapters" > > > > starts and you'll see - > > > > > > > > "NEMA 6-50 > > > > 240 volt / 50 amp breaker > > > > Maximum 32 amp output > > > > Buy adapter for Gen 2 Mobile Connector" > > > > > > > > > > 32A / 7.2kW is the maximum single phase charge rate in Europe, so I > > > wonder if they've standardised the EVSE box... however my UMC can also > > > take 16A 3 phase for 11kW. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > > > scrubbed... > > > URL: < > > > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20230619/d89 > > > 1dbe5/attachment.htm > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev- > > evdl.org/attachments/20230619/1f43f059/attachment.htm> > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > > > > > -- > > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. > > www.avg.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > Virus-free.www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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