I can probably restore supercharging on that Model S. It originally came with unlimited supercharging, so that would be a great enhancement to its value.
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 6:57 PM Cor van de Water via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > Paul wrote: "I suspect you got your vehicle way below market value." > Not sure - it was listed on Craigslist (I always buy private) so > anyone was able to make an offer, mine was just the first to be > accepted, so I think it was market value. > But then - what is market value for a 2013 S85 w dual charger > (original $94k) that is now salvage, has lost Supercharging, has a bad > battery (only bottom 15% available, range indication 37mi) needs work > on 3 door handles, has a shattered left rear quarter window, loose > front bumper cover, cosmetic damage to right rear fender, rear bumper > and hatch? 120k mi. Tell me your estimation and I will tell you if I > paid that or it was under market value. I spent $200 and many hours on > replacing a battery module (bought a 2013 module for $1k and sold the > *Tesla refurbished but unbalanced* 2012 module for $800; replaced the > module myself), bought and replaced the window (ignoring the cost for > a tube of goop), bought 3 stainless steel gears for the failing door > handle presenters and bolted down the front bumper cover. The cosmetic > damage is still there, but I now have a 230mi salvage but wonderfully > driving vehicle, still with cosmetic damage and only capable of > charging at max 20kW (240V 80A AC) so normally only 11.5kW (48A). > Though I will likely sell it this summer as I have too many EVs > Cor. > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 3:52 PM paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > > Yes, that would be if you exclusively charged at superchargers. > > I have never done that I would guess most people charge at home because > of convenience. > > My supercharging is less that 20% of my charging. > > I suspect you got your vehicle way below market value. > > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 03:45:32 PM CDT, Cor van de Water via > EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > In my PG&E service area, once you are over baseline consumption the > > minimum charge is $0.35 per kWh. So for me that charge would be well > > over a grand per year. > > My 2013 S used to have unlimited free supercharging, but the previous > > owner had a fender bender on the right rear quarter panel and as > > result, Tesla disabled all DC Fast Charging. > > This means that even the CHAdeMO converter that was bought for the car > > is now useless. > > Luckily I am an experienced EV'er so I always plan ahead and almost > > never need public charging anyway, but last year the wife and I were > > planning a 350 mi one way trip (Bay Area to LA) and despite having an > > abundance of DC Fast Charge to choose from along the 5 Freeway, we > > were looking at a minimum 1.5 hours stop for AC slow-ish charging > > (hopefully 48A because my S has the dual charger and can go up to 80A > > despite no public charger of that speed is available). Minimum 1.5h, > > which I would only reach if I drive constant 55MPH (and no Airco) on > > the I-5 which can be... hairy because ALL traffic is going 70+ there. > > I have considered pestering Tesla to *at least* re-enable DC Fast > > Charging, even if I can't use the Supercharging network, but I heard > > from others that Tesla's method of disabling Supercharging is by > > turning DCFC off in the car, which is... stupid and unnecessary, I am > > *sure* that the Supercharging network can identify cars - how else can > > they enable other cars to start using their Superchargers? > > Unhappily yours, > > Cor. > > > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 1:27 PM paul dove via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> > wrote: > > > > > > Interesting article. > > > I have a Model S with unlimited supercharging and I have never heard > of this offer. > > > So, how exactly is Tesla trying to get us to give up free > supercharging? > > > It appears that it is an incentive to try and sell new cars which > don't have free supercharging rather than a ploy to take it away from > current owners. > > > Especially since the only way one would know of it is if they were > shopping for a new Tesla. > > > They removed free supercharging years ago as an option. > > > I doubt it swayed many people to upgrade that weren't already in the > market especially because like the article said it was only on a trade-in > and everyone knows you can get more for your vehicle if you sell it > yourself..... though maybe not $5000 so you might consider a trade in for > ease if you aren't losing money. > > > To be honest though, unless you drive a lot it doesn't save much to > have free supercharging. > > > I used 3561 Kwh in the last 12 months. I pay $0.11 a kwh at home and I > believe the same at a supercharger in my area. > > > So, roughly $400 a year. Even if you double that to $800 a year it > takes a long time to get to $5000. > > > Plus it says they were offering 6 years free supercharging to boot. > > > I don't see how this is in any way a negative but just extra incentive > to upgrade if you were looking to...... > > > > > > On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 11:18:44 AM CDT, EV List Lackey via EV > <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > > > > > Tesla tries to get owners to give up `unlimited free Supercharging > for life´ > > > > > > Fred Lambert | Apr 24 2023 - 12:25 am PT > > > > > > "Tesla is trying again to get owners of older Model S and Model X with > > > unlimited free Supercharging for life to give up the perk ... > > > > > > "Current Tesla Model S or Model X owners with active unlimited free > > > Supercharging are eligible for 6 years of unlimited Supercharging. To > > > qualify, owners must trade in or remove unlimited Supercharging from > their > > > vehicle and take delivery of a new Model S or Model X by June 30, 2023 > ... > > > > > > "It´s interesting that Tesla is just now trying hard to get people off > of > > > the unlimited free Supercharging just as it appears to try to make > > > Supercharging a profit center - something it originally said it > wouldn´t do. > > > > > > "With non-Tesla EV drivers now getting access to the network, it looks > like > > > Tesla is now looking to see what the Supercharger network would look > like as > > > a full-scale money-making charging network." > > > > > > Complete article: > > > > > > > https://electrek.co/2023/04/24/tesla-triesowners-give-up-unlimited-free- > > > supercharging-for-life/ > > > > > > or https://v.gd/vBwnXc > > > > > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > > > > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. 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