Hi All,I'm sure that there are folks on here that may remember my post almost a
decade ago about this same issue. In the 1930's people feared that the grid
would not support the televisions and refrigerators that the wealthy were
plugging in, then we had the washing machines, air conditioners, hot tubs,
home computers and so on. Never considering how fast industrial demand was
growing at the same time. The utilities position is to sell power. They are
constantly swapping out gear for greater efficiency. As Bill points out, if we
start to see evidence of power shortages, it becomes a scheduling issue.
Incentives are very effective for encouraging the masses to help solve such
issues.The average EV uses about the same amount of power to charge as it takes
to run a dryer 2 cycles or less. Do many families think twice about running the
dryer a 2nd time when the clothes aren't completely dry?How many residences
have a dryer and a hot tub that are used on a daily basis? Does doing that
cause great concern in our neighborhoods?I recommend using the space between
our ears before buying into the rhetoric being spread by opponents of the EV
movement. It is human nature to question or even fear change, but most EVeryone
realizes that we need to make changes to help solve the looming crises that we
are facing as a society. My 2 Watts worth,Tom True Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE
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-------- Original message --------From: Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Date: 11/23/22 2:56 PM (GMT-08:00) To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: Bill Dube
<billd...@killacycle.com> Subject: Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast
No need upgrade the grid. None. Just need a few incentives and a little
intelligence.There is a lot of misinformation about this, here on the EVDL
even. >>>>>> Grid capacity problem ? >>>>>>>>>>> There is LOTS of power
available on the grid, just not at the peak times of the day. No problem
what-so-ever. EVs are _driven_ during the day, and are charged when they are
parked, during the night. Provide an economic incentive to folks to change off
peak and the grid capacity "problem" vanishes. >>>>>>>> Solar power is during
the day, while you are at work. How do you charge from solar? <<<< It is a
power grid. You put power in at one location, and you can take it out at
another. This is what it does. Use it. If your home solar panels are
providing surplus power to the grid, you can draw it out from a location other
than your home to charge your EV. It is simply a matter of giving the grid
operator incentive to take a reasonable fee for doing this. Legislation,
financial incentive, public sentiment, etc. No brainer. >>>>>>> EV power is no
different than washers, driers, stoves, electric heat, etc. <<<<<< The grid
has gone through decades of constant evolution. It has very nicely adapted and
upgraded with the advent of air conditioning, electric heat, and power hungry
home appliances. As EVs slowly ramp up in popularity, the grid operators
will adapt. EVs and EV chargers can easily be quickly switched off and back on
to "park shave" during periods of peak load. The grid operators simply have to
decide on which of the many methods they want to use to talk to your EV or your
charger, and offer you an incentive to participate.Bill
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