I'll speak up here, as an avid urban bike rider.

Already bike lanes are used by multiple kinds of vehicles: bikes, of course, but also e-bikes, electric scooters, hover boards, segways, skate boards, and just about any personal mobility device you can imagine.

So, the question isn't really whether bike riders would comfortably share bike paths with various electric vehicles. I think two factors are important
1. speed
2. size

On speed, in Seattle, e-bikes are limited to 20mph (you can go faster, but not with assist). That's amply fast and, so far, seems to be ok. My personal opinion is that other forms of EVs could use bike paths if they are limited to 20 mph. But that only works if the density is low. Imagine if you have a child riding, who hasn't yet developed good situational awareness. A moderately heavy object at 20 mph is enough to kill the child. So, I don't really have a good answer on speed.

On size, it gets more argumentative. Bikes are relatively narrow, and can pass or be passed without too much extra space. Same for scooters, skate boards, etc. If we get small, enclosed EVs that are 3-4' wide they may literally fit in a bike lane but completely hog it. I can see that being strongly looked down on. On the other hand, if someone were to design a wind and weather shell which was no wider than the handle bars of a road bike, it might be ok.

And, like for any subject, there are as many opinions as people. I don't know how others would react. All I know is that the current sharing situation seems to be ok with most people.

Peri

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Subject: Re: [EVDL] opinion: smaller evs ?

On 9 Sep 2022 at 14:21, Gary Krysztopik via EV wrote:

 If we could greatly expand protected bike paths we could introduce all kinds
 of micro EVTMs like the ELF, PEBL, Twike, Podride and so many more for simple
 efficient local transportation.

Do you think that bike riders would accept without a fuss opening bike paths
to small enclosed or partly enclosed EVs, especially ones with no pedals?

That isn't a rhetorical question.  Although I ride an E-bike, I'm not a part
of that community, so I have no clue.  I do seem to recall having read years
ago that some of the more purist pedalers looked askance at e-bikes and
their owners.

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