My son put $100 down for the Tesla Cybertruck.  He will sell his 13 MPG lifted 
Jeep Gladiator once he gets the Cybertruck.
    On Thursday, May 20, 2021, 01:38:32 PM EDT, Mark Abramowitz via EV 
<[email protected]> wrote:  
 
 But back to the Ford F-150 Lightning - $40-90k before incentives. Doesn’t 
sound cheap, but it performs better than any F-150 has ever performed, which is 
exactly what’s needed to generate sales and excitement, and make it *the* F-150 
to own. Hopefully the base 230 mile range will be sufficient for most.

$100 to reserve one - any takers on this list?

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On May 20, 2021, at 7:11 AM, Mark Abramowitz <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Didn’t exactly sneak it in...just put it where it made sense.
> 
> I agree about a range extended, but for those who want the option to pull 
> lots of power out at a construction site, or *maybe* even a landscaper that 
> need to charge their batteries for their equipment, a fuel cell for auxiliary 
> power may make more sense.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2021, at 7:03 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Haha, I new you'd sneak in fuel cells. :) I'll give you this. I think it 
>> makes more sense to do range extension with a fuel cell than with an ICE.
>> 
>> Does anyone have an idea which would be more compact for a given amount of 
>> net energy: fuel cell + tank or battery ?
>> 
>> Peri
>> 
>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>> 
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
>> To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
>> <[email protected]>
>> Sent: 19-May-21 10:39:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal
>> 
>>> I really don’t care - if it gets people interested in EVs as a cool, high 
>>> performance vehicle, that’s great.
>>> 
>>> This is a middle America meat and potatoes vehicle.
>>> 
>>> Over time it will get lighter, and what you saw was one with added weight 
>>> from a larger battery pack and other extras.
>>> 
>>> I wouldn’t be surprised that option disappeared over time, and if you need 
>>> all that extra juice, you’ll be able to get a fuel cell electric version. 
>>> (Sorry, that’s just the more fitting EV option for that need)
>>> 
>>> I see this vehicle as game-changing as the Tesla.
>>> 
>>> Then there are the other two that they drove up on stage - both look great, 
>>> but actually the light commercial vehicle is of greater import and impact.
>>> 
>>> - Mark
>>> 
>>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>>> 
>>>>>> On May 19, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think it will be popular. So much for making efficient vehicles - one 
>>>>> estimate I read put the small pack at 115kWh. But most buyers won't care. 
>>>>> They want the F-150 look, the power, and the range. It must weigh a ton. 
>>>>> No, make that 3 tons.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Peri
>>>>> 
>>>>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>>>>> 
>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>> From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Cc: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: 19-May-21 7:18:43 PM
>>>>> Subject: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal
>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjisj5T0VqE Bigger frunk than Tesla. 
>>>>>> Same price for the low end model. Lots of intelligent features. This is 
>>>>>> a real competitor to the Cybertruck. Lawrence Rhodes
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