Didn’t exactly sneak it in...just put it where it made sense.

I agree about a range extended, but for those who want the option to pull lots 
of power out at a construction site, or *maybe* even a landscaper that need to 
charge their batteries for their equipment, a fuel cell for auxiliary power may 
make more sense.

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On May 20, 2021, at 7:03 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Haha, I new you'd sneak in fuel cells. :) I'll give you this. I think it 
> makes more sense to do range extension with a fuel cell than with an ICE.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea which would be more compact for a given amount of 
> net energy: fuel cell + tank or battery ?
> 
> Peri
> 
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> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
> To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: 19-May-21 10:39:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal
> 
>> I really don’t care - if it gets people interested in EVs as a cool, high 
>> performance vehicle, that’s great.
>> 
>> This is a middle America meat and potatoes vehicle.
>> 
>> Over time it will get lighter, and what you saw was one with added weight 
>> from a larger battery pack and other extras.
>> 
>> I wouldn’t be surprised that option disappeared over time, and if you need 
>> all that extra juice, you’ll be able to get a fuel cell electric version. 
>> (Sorry, that’s just the more fitting EV option for that need)
>> 
>> I see this vehicle as game-changing as the Tesla.
>> 
>> Then there are the other two that they drove up on stage - both look great, 
>> but actually the light commercial vehicle is of greater import and impact.
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 19, 2021, at 8:59 PM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I think it will be popular. So much for making efficient vehicles - one 
>>> estimate I read put the small pack at 115kWh. But most buyers won't care. 
>>> They want the F-150 look, the power, and the range. It must weigh a ton. 
>>> No, make that 3 tons.
>>> 
>>> Peri
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Lawrence Rhodes via EV" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: "Lawrence Rhodes" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: 19-May-21 7:18:43 PM
>>> Subject: [EVDL] Ford F-150 Reveal
>>> 
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjisj5T0VqE Bigger frunk than Tesla. Same 
>>>> price for the low end model. Lots of intelligent features. This is a real 
>>>> competitor to the Cybertruck. Lawrence Rhodes
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