At least until a year or so ago, Tesla was way ahead of most - I haven’t 
followed their efforts in a while.

On the heavy duty side, work is being done on caravanning, with trucks 
traveling very, very close to each other. I remember that Volvo was doing a lot 
of work in this area. 

- Mark

Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2020, at 10:13 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Well, I'm actually pretty impressed with Tesla's approach: let the AI 
> software shadow the driver and correct it's own mistakes. Apparently, they 
> have been doing this for some time, probably without drivers being aware.
> Peri
> 
> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
> 
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Mark Abramowitz" <[email protected]>
> To: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" 
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: 01-Dec-20 8:31:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [EVDL] 'All's not well with UK public charging' / Autonomy
> 
>> Agreed, but who want to be the one to debug the almost certain bugs in the 
>> AV programs?
>> 
>> I’ll let others do that for me.
>> 
>> Then again, I can see it opening up a whole new world for the elderly, those 
>> physically unable to drive, etc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Mark
>> 
>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Dec 1, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Didn't go through for some reason.
>>> 
>>> << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >>
>>> 
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: 01-Dec-20 6:36:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re[2]: [EVDL] 'All's not well with UK public charging' / Autonomy
>>> 
>>>> Another way to measure success is when the number of fatalities from 
>>>> autonomous vehicles becomes less than other vehicle fatalities. There will 
>>>> always be fatalities but when your risk is less in an AV, why not ?
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen several mentions about accident rates, but that is misleading. 
>>>> It's almost certain that right from the start AVs will have fewer 
>>>> accidents. It's important to look at fatalities. And probably near 
>>>> fatalities, too.
>>>> 
>>>> Peri
>>>> 
> 
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