This series of messages names reminds me of the days before internet was
available. I was working as an ecologist for the Corps of Engineers in
Walla Walla, Washington. My supervisor was involved with a fish counting
program at the dams on the Columbia and Snake Rivers. Every Thursday he got
a fax of the number of fish (smolts- baby salmon) counted at each dam, he
then conducted an analysis and developed a report that he faxed to a
meeting in Portland, Oregon. That process took at least least five or six
hours each Thursday night.
My supervisor's supervisor learned that I had taken computer programming in
college so he asked if I could write a program to work up the fish data.
Not at all being a fan of computers my supervisor thought it would be a
waste of time. Rather than using basic I decided to use a program called
dBase 3. Another program that I used was Cross Talk to download the fish
data from each dam. It took me a while to get Cross Talk to work. After the
data was downloaded the program sent the required report to the printer
within 10 minutes.
I bought my first desktop in 1986. It had two floppy disk drives and no
hard drive. Oh how things have changed.
Bob Keeland

On Tue, Sep 8, 2020, 6:28 AM Paul Compton via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:

> As well as the windows machines, I have Linux Lite installed on a Dell
> Latitude E6400 from about 2008. Easy installation, the only manual
> intervention was finding the WiFi driver.
>
> Youtube works just fine. Or at least as well as YT ever works on anything.
>
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 07:07, Lee Hart via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
> >
> > evln via EV wrote:
> > > There are ways around not having a strong internet connecion
> > > to view youtube videos.
> > >
> > > You could use
> > > https://x2convert.com
> > >   to convert the streaming video's audio to a .mp3 file you could
> > > download and listen to.
> > >
> > > If I remember correctly, years ago, Lee held bragging-rights to
> > > having his internet access via an old 486 pc on outdated operating
> > > system and outdated browsers.
> >
> > Yep; guilty as charged. :-) All I had was dial-up, and my old Prodigy
> > email program was still pretty fast because it didn't load any of the
> > bloat. But it's long-gone. Any poor soul that tries to use dial-up on
> > the modern internet is doomed!
> >
> > > I would have hoped by now that situation had changed when more
> up-to-date
> > > PCs...
> >
> > The PC itself isn't so much the problem. My current PC is an HP 6000
> > Pro, which isn't all that old. The problem is that I have a DSL line,
> > which averages 100-200k b/sec. Fine for email, slow for bloated web
> > pages, and terrible for video.
> >
> > Also, I hate Windows, and so am using linux. For whatever reason,
> > Youtube refuses to work with any of my linux browsers. The error
> > messages say it needs HTML5; but my browsers work fine with HTML5 files
> > from any other source.
> >
> > > Like Peppermnt
> > > https://www.google.com/search?q=peppermint+linux
> > >   or linux mint (or others)
> > > https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+mint
> >
> > I'm running Puppy linux. I've tried a few others, but got lost in
> > "configuration hell". They might be fine for a linux expert, but I'm a
> > rank amateur.
> >
> > > I had to upgrade to a new android 9 smartphone...
> >
> > To show what a luddite I am, I don't *have* a smartphone! For one thing,
> > the text is too hard to read for my tired old eyes. For another, my fat
> > old fingers can't type on the tiny keyboards. I've tried a tablet, but
> > even that's too small. (I'm reading this on a 17" monitor set to
> 1024x768).
> >
> > Also I don't have cable, and don't watch TV, and don't play video games.
> > And no facebook, no twitter... I don't use *any* social media at all.
> >
> > > Perhaps if Lee had one of these with a weeks worth of
> > > video url links stored on it, when he goes out to do his
> > > weekly shopping, he could stop off at a wifi site parking
> > > lot and (legally) mooch some free internet to stream &
> > > watch videos like everyone else?
> >
> > Folks must think I lead a life of desperation without all the modern
> > (in)convenieces of being totally addicted to a smartphone and endlessly
> > immersed in the online world. Quite the contrary; I enjoy the real world
> > a lot more than the online world! I have real friends that I actually
> > see in person, and real hobbies where I build stuff that has nothing to
> > do with computers.
> >
> > The more time I spend online, the LESS I get done!
> >
> > Lee Hart
> >
> > --
> > A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is
> > nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
> >          -- Antoine de Saint Exupery
> > --
> > Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com
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