> My experience with a new 2011 Leaf is much the same that Glenn relates. > I will never buy another Nissan and will never encourage anyone to buy > one.
So you bought the wrong car for your mileage needs. Is that Nissan's fault? > and will never encourage anyone to buy one. Even for those who understand their daily needs and for which the car is 100% meets their needs? Bob -----Original Message----- From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Willie via EV Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 9:54 AM To: [email protected] Cc: Willie <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf 2use in VT: buying a used EV ... On 8/22/19 8:41 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > EV range is very very user specific. You buy an EV that meets your > daily range. Done. > > So please keep your denigrating comments to your specific case, and do > not use generalized negativisim which others may take out of context. > "very limited life and market". For example would be "has very > limited life and market for my driving needs". > > For example, my son's commute is only 8 miles a day. He can use > almost free used EV's when others have moved on.. I agree that a car that does not meet the needs and expectations of one person may well meet the needs and expectations of another. A car's reputation is made from the sum of buyers experiences. Glenn has properly presented his experience and should not be castigated for presenting. That is, I object to you attempting to suppress honest and truthful statements. My experience with a new 2011 Leaf is much the same that Glenn relates. I will never buy another Nissan and will never encourage anyone to buy one. . > > Thanks, Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Glenn Van Vlemen via > EV > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 11:56 PM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: Glenn Van Vlemen <[email protected]>; brucedp5 > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Leaf 2use in VT: buying a used EV ... > > I have been looking at 2nd hand leaf’s but find the battery > degradation severely limits the use of these vehicles. > > Some progress appears to be on the horizon for installing additional > capacity to restore and or improve range. But not commercially > available yet and potential issues around insurance, liabilities etc > yet to be clearly defined. > > In Australia this appears to make these vehicles impractical and thus > valueless! > > I do a 55km commute daily so would like a 80% charged range of > 80km > to be useful. Then there is the issue of continued battery degradation > and further reduction of range into the future. > > So the leaf appears to me to have a very limited life and market. Pity > as the cars are on the market for reasonable prices now, assuming you > can accept the range limitations. > > > On Thu, 22 Aug 2019 at 09:13, Seth Rothenberg via EV > <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I second much of the advice shared here already, and I would add one >> thing. >> >> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 8:52 PM brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> I would not waste time on ay leaf that is older than 2014. That is >>> the model year offering onboard 6kW chargers and had worked out most >>> of the charger bugs. >>> >> >> I have a 2013 Nissan Leaf S, 24KWh battery, theoretical range 84 miles. >> I bought this car 200 miles from home on a day that was 18 degrees F. >> Let's just say it's good I had plenty of time and a really good >> friend to take turns with. >> >> In the 2016 model year, two additional options became available - >> Heat pump instead of resistive heat and >> 30 KWh battery (Not on all models in 2016). >> >> It would be worth studying if these options are available in your >> area, as I have been told they make a big difference in range. >> >> If you buy a Leaf, one or more of the groups can share more tips, >> like using seat warmers to warm people conductively instead of the >> high cost of physically moving air through the heating system. >> >> Good luck, please let us know :-) >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was >> scrubbed... >> URL: < >> http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190821/40 >> 68b18c/attachment.html >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >> http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( >> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> >> -- > > *Regards* > > *Glenn Van Vlemen* > Tel: +61 419 919 536 > Email: *[email protected] <[email protected]>* > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was > scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20190822/ce > 041ca9/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
