Good counter arguments!  Thanks
Bob

On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 12:50 PM Lee Hart via EV <[email protected]> wrote:

> Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> >> I'm not sure EV charging stations will ever be as prolific as gas
> > stations are now.
> >
> > The 300 million cars are served by about 120,000 gas stations in the
> USA...
> > What about when we get to 300M EVs?  Lets assume 80% charge at home
> > leaving 60M needing public charging... 250,000 high speed chargers
> needed.
>
> Which is just two per gas station. Certainly possible.
>
> > That leaves the 9 million needing 3 hours a day at L2 for 36 million L2
> > charging hours a day.  Divided by 24 gives about 1,500,000 public L2
> > chargers.
>
> Roughly 12 times the number of gas stations. But L2 chargers can be put
> almost anywhere; any business can have one. So it is quite conceivable
> to have that many.
>
> > So I say as I have always said... "anyone who buys an EV with the idea of
> > dependence on public charging will be VERY disappointed!
>
> Right now, yes! To my mind, it is GOOD not to depend on public charging.
> Charge at home!
>
> But as an engineer, I see no technological challenges with a system
> where home charging is somehow prevented, so that paid public charging
> is the only option. The oil companies could convert their gas stations
> to "filling stations" with EV fast chargers. The power companies could
> get into the public charging business, and license smaller L2 chargers
> the same way banks set up ATMs in every mall and big-box store. There
> are easily 12 times more places where such EVSE's could be put than just
> at gas stations. Any public place you park your car could have one.
>
> Cities, states, stores, the oil companies, power companies, and whoever
> makes these EVSE's would all see it as a new source of profits. All of
> them would lobby for such a solution.
>
> They get complete control over the price and delivery. They can tax the
> bejesus out of the electricity, just like fuel taxes. They can limit or
> shut down the chargers in case of brownouts, or even "borrow" power from
> your EV battery packs when needed.
>
> THAT's my worry.
>
> --
> Fools ignore complexity. Pragmatists suffer it. The wise avoid it.
> Geniuses remove it. -- Alan Perlis, "Epigrams on Programming"
> --
> Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com
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