Hi Jack,
So this is a 24 Volt battery, consisting of the 12 cells that you see,
each 2V and connected by the lead straps to each other.
And yes, the cells are really 21" tall.
Testing it is relatively simple since you can measure each cell
individually, in contrast to most Lead-Acid batteries.
All you need is a Voltmeter, firs measure each individual cell at rest
and write down the voltages. Then put it on charge and after a couple
hours while the charger is still on, measure again and write down the
voltages again.
Then disconnect the charger and start using the Forklift for as long as
you need. At the end, measure and write down the voltages again.
Any weak cells will have a larger voltage swing between the charging and
the after-use voltage.
Also, all charging voltages should be pretty much the same and
preferably the after-use ones also as close as possible.

Another way to verify cells is to take a few drops of the electrolyte
inside and measure its density (preferably after a good long charge) to
verify that the acid in all cells is of equal strength. The density also
tells you the State of Charge during operation, but it is a bit of a
bother to measure it regularly for all 12 cells, the voltmeter is
easier.

BTW, do not despair if you see the fluid level below plate top or find
the behavior of the battery weak upon first use.
Just fill distilled water until the top is just covered, then fully
charge the battery, then top each cell up to the fill mark with
distilled water, then use the battery a couple times and it might come
back to normal operation from being weak. Capacity may still be limited,
though there are Forklift battery maintenance companies that can give
you options on reconditioning the batteries.

Alternative is to replace the current battery with sets of 4 (not 2!)
series connected Golf Cart batteries. Depending on how much current the
Forklift draws, you may need 2 or more of those strings in parallel to
handle the load. (So, 4+4 or 4+4+4).

For the charger, you need at least 240V 30A outlet, similar to what a
Dryer or Stove would have.
Success!

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of via EV
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 3:38 PM
To: Lee Hart
Cc: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Forklift Battery Options?

The "battery pack" is a steel box 13" wide, 21" tall and 37" deep.  It
has what look like twelve 5 3/4" X 6 1/4" X 21" "batteries" connected
together with heavy lead connectors. There's also a watering system
connecting to each of the "batteries". I have no clue if each of these
"batteries" is really 21" tall since they are in the steel box. All of
these "batteries" are connected positive to negative. 

Any idea where I can get info on testing the individual cells? I was
told that an electrical engineer was considering buying the forklift to
resell and he was going to test the cells before he agreed to buy the
forklift. For his intent, he would obviously require a fully functioning
battery pack. As you mentioned, I don't have that requirement. My main
challenge will be keeping the thing charged between infrequent uses.
Luckily the charger seems to be fully automatic so I think I can just
leave the thing plugged in constantly between uses. 

Regards, 

Jack 

> On Jan 4, 2017, at 5:13 PM, Lee Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> via EV wrote:
>> I would be shocked if my duty cycle was ever more than an hour or
two.
> 
> In that case, you don't really need a brand-new industrial-strength
battery. They are built to work for 8 hours a day, day in and day out,
for 10-20 years. But (as you know), they also cost thousands of dollars.
> 
> First, I would test the battery you've got. It might be weak, but
usable. It might only have one bad cell (individual cells can be
replaced in industrial batteries).
> 
> If it's too far gone to bother with, recycle it. 6v golf cart
batteries are the most economical replacement. Since you have a 12v
pack, you need at least two. However, they won't be happy delivering the
high current you're likely to draw. So, I would use 4 or 6 of them
(whatever fits mechanically). You will probably have to build a rack to
stack them to fit in the space where the old battery sat. Wire the golf
cart batteries in series pairs for 12v, then these pairs in parallel.
> 
> 4 or 6 golf cart batteries will also work better with the charger
you've got, and will add enough weight so the lift won't be as likely to
tip over with a heavy load.
> 
> -- 
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> Just imagine the chaos if they learned to think logically, plan,
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> implement, test, and execute!
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> Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com
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