Please, no automatic backup beepers. Have you ever had any construction done near your home at night and all night long you hear the stupid beep-beep-beep every time the professional equipment reversed direction? There are countries in Europe where the beepers must be silenced at night exactly for reasons like this - noise pollution. I have lived in India where it is common to have (aftermarket) backup beepers and it is very disturbing that every time someone tries to park their car adjacent to your home, you get woken by their backup beeper as if that is a good alternative for paying attention while backing up! Please, don't get me started on backup beepers. Noise makers to help the blind to orient themselves on where they can expect quiet cars, that is an acceptable approach. I like Lee's suggestion to include *every* quiet car into this legislation, not just EVs and I like Elon Musk's suggestion to project a noise only towards pedestrians actually present.
Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lawrence Harris via EV Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2016 10:46 AM To: Rush Dougherty; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] $52M/yr 'Quiet (Electrified) cars' alert-sound rules by 2019/09 Well I agree that until pedestrians don't have the right of way _period_ we need to deal with this. The approach of having a noise emitted at low speed is really not a big deal, most of the time it's inaudible inside the car. I think a turbine whine at low speed and maybe even a beep beep when the turn signal is on or the wheel is turned beyond a certain point would be just good. People do get distracted for lots of reasons; kids fighting is a good one, that having some ancillary noise would be useful. What we could do is lobby to ensure like backup beepers this is put into all cars, we all know that modern gas cars can be exceedingly quiet as well. Lawrence > On Nov 15, 2016, at 08:37, Rush Dougherty via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thos True via EV >> It is the pedestrian blinded by electronics technology that we need to concern >> ourselves with! > > I couldn't agree with you more, how many times do we hear of or see utube videos > of somebody so engrossed in their phone conversation or playing their game or > looking at fb on their phone that they walk into fountains, enter intersections, > fall into holes totally oblivious to what is in front of them. > > Not having a 'noise' that is like a 'car' is such BS in my opinion, it is just a > way to force EV's into the gasser mentality. I was taught to look both ways before > crossing, I used to live in NYC where I jaywalked all the time and never got hit. > Is there a statistical analysis that shows who gets hit where? Or is all this 'we > must have a sound' just anecdotal? Is there an actual study that says that people > are likely to get run over by a car with no sound when they just cross without > paying any attention to the roadway? Or is all just conjecture. > > Rush Dougherty > Tucson AZ 85719 > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 3579 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161115/217a d999/attachment.bin> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
