Earlier this year, there was a spate of news stories about the company
"Hybrid Industries" who would install a second pack (up to 24kWh) in the
trunk of your Leaf.  I just did some quick searching, but I couldn't find
out anyone who actually had the product installed, nor did their web site
seem to give many details of how it worked.

Bill

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This is straightforward but quite a kludge as the CHAdeMO is not a simple
contactor and controller, but it is actually a power converter / battery
charger.
The Leaf actually does not care how much capacity the pack has, the pack has
an integrated BMS that is quite stand-alone and there is a HV wire and a CAN
bus running from car to pack, plus a few good old 12V contactor coil power
signals, which connect directly to the coils of precharge, positive and
negative contactors, that is it.
So, parallel attaching of an extra pack (Leaf or otherwise) is not too
difficult. Only thing I would question is if the Leaf is concerned about a
difference in current between what the motor draws and what the BMS
registers inside the pack. I have not tested if the Leaf actually cares
about that. If not, it is simply a matter of splicing the contactor control
signals and HV wiring and you can add a twin Leaf pack.

I have two complete 2011 Leaf packs that will go into my US Electricar
S10 truck, including the two Leaf BMS's so I can monitor all cells in both
packs via the 2 CAN buses (I will use a "CANary" for that)

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bill Dennis via EV
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:46 PM
To: 'Lee Hart'; 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chevrolet Bolt EV Early Adopter
promises,androgynous-design and no-delays

How about this idea:  install an extra pack in the trunk and or back seat as
you say, but then attach the male end of a Chademo plug to it and do a
little Arduino programming to emulate the supply side of the Chademo.
Then
when you need some extra range, pull over and do a quick charge from the
extra pack.  Maybe call it the "Leaflet" and market it even.  :)

Bill 

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Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 4:13 PM
To: Peri Hartman; Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Chevrolet Bolt EV Early Adopter promises,
androgynous-design and no-delays

Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Thanks for your detailed answer, Cor. I can't really justify 
> increasing from 24kwh to 30, so it's unlikely I'll pursue that. 200kwh

> would make a substantial difference, though. I could get rid of my
other
vehicle.
> We'll just have to see what happens over the next couple years, though

> I agree, I don't think battery tech has advanced enough to fit it in 
> the same space.

I have a 2013 Leaf, and have also been wondering if there's a practical way
to increase its pack capacity and thus range. Rather than fit something into
the same space as the present pack, I'm wondering if an add-on battery pack
can be installed in the truck or back seat area. 
Perhaps as a stack of "suitcases" of manageable size and weight, so they can
be loaded in by hand when the extra range is needed, and removed when they
are not.

The big unknown is how to add capacity in such a way that the Leaf's
computers will accept and use it.

--
A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left
to add, but when there is nothing left to take away.
         -- Antoine de Saint Exupery
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Lee Hart, 814 8th Ave N, Sartell MN 56377, www.sunrise-ev.com
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