I don't think it has to do with the number of individual components (cells in this case) or else the internal combustion engine would have lost to the electric motor a very long time ago. I think the problem is more with the upfront cost - it would be similar to having to pay for almost all the fuel that your ICEV would be consuming in the 8 or 10 years following, at the moment of vehicle purchase. So, we probably need a similar thing as cellphone companies do: either you buy the phone upfront and you are free to go whomever you want, or you buy a subsidized phone with a plan, but then you select a provider that has good coverage in your area. Meaning that you would buy an EV with a subsidy by the Charger Provider, but you are required to install a charger from that provider in your home and fill up (at home and on the go) at a charger from that provider, unless you want to pay "roaming charges" to fill up at an EVSE from a different provider.
And then there is the pay-as-you-go option where you would still own the car (it is not a shared car which is another option) but only pay when you are actually using it. I am sure that there have already been people that have done the math on business plans for these options, but this would shave off the threshold for entrance into an EV compared to an ICEV. I do not know if the business plans would work out though. Cor van de Water Chief Scientist Proxim Wireless office +1 408 383 7626 Skype: cor_van_de_water XoIP +31 87 784 1130 private: cvandewater.info http://www.proxim.com This email message (including any attachments) contains confidential and proprietary information of Proxim Wireless Corporation. If you received this message in error, please delete it and notify the sender. Any unauthorized use, disclosure, distribution, or copying of any part of this message is prohibited. -----Original Message----- From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of EVDL Administrator via EV Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 1:47 PM To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Batteries are King (A Gigafactory Challenge) I'm hardly an expert on these matters, but over 7000 cells in a battery? Good grief. With the stupefying amount of labor that has to go into assembling such batteries, I don't see how Tesla (or anyone) can ever build an EV for the masses By this I mean an EV that anyone can afford, with performance (including range) pretty close to an equivalent ICEV. I don't mean a $37k EV (you don't really think that $7500 subsidy is going to last, do you?). I'm talking about an EV that costs what an ICE Toyota Yaris or Honda Fit costs, or less, and presents the same creature comforts, with a range of at least 200 miles. We know that 100 mile range is plenty. A few people will accept that, and a few will pay a premium over the cost of an equivalent ICEV. Most won't. That's why used Leafs are so unsettlingly cheap - it's supply and demand. IMO, EVs won't become truly mainstream until they cost not just the same as, but LESS than equivalent ICEVs. I actually hope I'm proven wrong, but from here I don't see that happening with an EV battery containing thousands of tiny cells. David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA EVDL Administrator = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
