A copy of the form was attached to the original news item I read about this so I have read it. It doesn't say Tesla can take his car but it does say that before they would reactivate the car he had to take it to Tesla to be inspected at his expense (other sources say that Tesla says they won't charge for this but the form clearly states it's at his expense). If they're happy with the inspection they'll reactive the car. If they feel it needs additional repairs he has to take it to a Tesla service center for those repairs before they'll reactivate it. Or finally, they may decide that it's beyond repair and they will refuse to reactivate it. That last could be construed as "taking" his car because it will be basically worthless at that point.
Tesla's stated position is that they're concerned about safety, but that's not really their problem any more. He'll need to get it inspected by the state before it can be declared roadworthy. There are a couple of 'hack the Tesla' groups out there. I think we'll need them if anyone expects to do anything with used Teslas. --Rick On 09/29/2014 02:19 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: > On 28 Sep 2014 at 20:32, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > >> If the guy wants to hack a tesla, then simply sign the form. Done. > > "Simply sign the form"? It isn't that simple. > > On 28 Sep 2014 at 2:12, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > >> ... he says the company wanted him to sign liability waiver that allows >> the automaker to ultimately determine the car´s roadworthiness. Rutman >> says ... that it would allow Tesla to confiscate the vehicle if they >> felt it wasn´t safe ... >> >> Tesla [says] ... nothing in the inspection authorization form they >> wanted Rutman to sign would have let them take his car away. > > That's a legal document you're talking about. If the owner is correct, he > would be effectively giving up the ownership rights he paid for. > > Maybe I'm overly cautious, but I'm not like the folks who click right > through software agreements. I actually >read< them so I know what I'm > giving up. A couple of times, I've decided I don't need that program that > badly after all. I also read mortgages before I sign them - all legal > documents, in fact. > > If I were the owner here, I'd take that document to an attorney for an > independent expert interpretation. If it really does allow Tesla to take the > car on their unilateral determination that it's unsafe, it's an outrage. > > Tesla claims it doesn't really say that. Fine, but it wouldn't be the first > time that a corporation said soothingly "Just trust us," when the legal fine > print said "don't." > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not > reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my > email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
