Given the path Tesla has taken with software - I can't see how they manage off the grid salvage units. If they interact with such - what liability do they take on?
A solution is maybe an open source OS for the car, something that runs it, but it takes Tesla off the hook - which is obviously how it has to be; and puts the EV owner on the hook - which is necessary if you are going to salvage such a thing - off the grid so to speak. I don't know what GMs motivation was with the EV1, I assume very proprietary based on nothing; or what Tesla's is now. I tend to think there is less evil empire with Tesla and more having to conform to existing and maybe silly rules and regs. It is unfortunate, but I understand why they would prefer this...for now. Musk really wants EVs everywhere. But as always the DIY side is not much of a concern. Congress mandates that OEMs have to support the existence of an aftermarket. Telas will have to deal with this somehow. I have know idea what it looks like. If cars were still pretty dumb, with no digital IP, there would be a lot less difficulty. If wishes were fishes.... On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV < [email protected]> wrote: > To my ears, this has a faint but uncomfortable echo of GM's policies with > the EV1: you may have leased the EV, but >WE< control its fate. > > Tesla's policies here echo where many other corporations are headed, and > not > just in EVs or even just in automobiles. It's no longer enough for you to > buy the product; they also want to ensure that you're locked in to > providing > them with a constant, reliable stream of future income as long as you own > that product. > > Basically, they want you to buy the car, but rent the right to drive it. > And it's not just Tesla; it's all the manufacturers. > > Products that constantly "phone home" to their manufacturers sound like a > great idea. Tesla can warn you if something's wrong, and track your car if > someone steals it. They can improve your car with updated software while > you sleep. You can monitor the car's charging progress, and pre-cool the > car from your mobile phone. > > But Tesla can also decide that you're not sufficiently subservient to their > rules, and - in effect - virtually confiscate the car you paid them for. > > The Renault Zoe has a rather less veiled version of this manufacturer > control. If you don't pay your battery rental, they'll disable the battery, > effectively "bricking" your car. > > IMO, any product that you "own" but don't fully control, you're really just > renting. > > If you're not going to own your EV, IMO you should get more benefits than > this from the rental transaction. I'm thinking station cars or > car-sharing, > where you get (or should get) the right to vehicle flexibility. > > For example, if you need to pick up a load of wood at the lumberyard, you > can swap your commuter EV for a pickup truck for the weekend. Or if you're > taking a vacation with the whole family, you can exchange your EV for an > ICEV for 2 weeks. > > And don't forget, there are still millions of older ICEVs out there that > are > NOT locked to their manufacturers for anything - parts or otherwise. > Relieve them of their grimy bits, drop in a generic motor and controller > and > batteries, and you have an EV that you genuinely, truly control. > > Something to think about, no? > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not > reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my > email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- Put this question to yourself: should I use everyone else to attain happiness, or should I help others gain happiness? *Dalai Lama * Tell me what it is you plan to do With your one wild and precious life? Mary Oliver, "The summer day." To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 550-2430 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 631-1451 Cell (919) 513-0418 Desk [email protected] <[email protected]> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20140928/cd767621/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org For EV drag racing discussion, please use NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
