I thought I²R heating was greater for DC.  I am not an EE so this is not a
rhetorical comment.


On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:

> > [the main] reason we have AC transmission
> > is due the difficulties  sending DC over long distances.
>
> But for very long distances, high voltage DC now wins.  At very long
> distances AC transmission is inefficient due to capacitance (and much
> shorter when underground or underwater).  AC also has additional Peak vs
> RMS
> IsquareR losses.
>
> On the other hand, DC loads the line capacitance once, and then it is no
> longer a problem and it can operate at the peak voltage rating of the line,
> not the average.  Hence less overall loss for DC for the same conductor.
>
> But DC conversion does cost more.  Hence the tradeoff.  DC is now needed
> for
> very long point-to-point transmission which is what we now need to get
> inter-regional transmission of power from Wind.   (Solar is not involved
> because it can be generated anywhere at the load for less cost than trying
> to bring it in 2000 miles from Arizona).
>
> Bob
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <
> [email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Somebody has to pay for road repairs.
> > Pipelines are a different issue.
>
> Rather than spending $billons of dollars on a pipeline monument to the
> past, it is better to make that same investment into electrical
> transmission lines for now and the future instead.
>
> The only thing holding back a near infinite supply of FREE renewable
> energy is the lack of the long haul transmission lines to get the solar
> and wind energy from where it is abundant (the plains) to where it is
> needed.  Pipelines do the same thing for oil but are an ultimate dead-end.
>
> Anyone want to invest in finding a way to send copper conductors through
> old pipelines to convert obsolete pipelines to underground DC transmission
> lines?
>
> Bob, Wb4aPR
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