> [the main] reason we have AC transmission
> is due the difficulties  sending DC over long distances.

But for very long distances, high voltage DC now wins.  At very long
distances AC transmission is inefficient due to capacitance (and much
shorter when underground or underwater).  AC also has additional Peak vs RMS
IsquareR losses.

On the other hand, DC loads the line capacitance once, and then it is no
longer a problem and it can operate at the peak voltage rating of the line,
not the average.  Hence less overall loss for DC for the same conductor.

But DC conversion does cost more.  Hence the tradeoff.  DC is now needed for
very long point-to-point transmission which is what we now need to get
inter-regional transmission of power from Wind.   (Solar is not involved
because it can be generated anywhere at the load for less cost than trying
to bring it in 2000 miles from Arizona).

Bob

On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 12:02 PM, Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Somebody has to pay for road repairs.
> Pipelines are a different issue.

Rather than spending $billons of dollars on a pipeline monument to the
past, it is better to make that same investment into electrical
transmission lines for now and the future instead.

The only thing holding back a near infinite supply of FREE renewable
energy is the lack of the long haul transmission lines to get the solar
and wind energy from where it is abundant (the plains) to where it is
needed.  Pipelines do the same thing for oil but are an ultimate dead-end.

Anyone want to invest in finding a way to send copper conductors through
old pipelines to convert obsolete pipelines to underground DC transmission
lines?

Bob, Wb4aPR
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