On Dec 11, 2018, at 11:23 AM, Jari Arkko <jari.ar...@piuha.net> wrote:
> 
> Re: optional but everyone requiring a feature.
> 
> I think in this case the “can require everyone to do it” is probably far away 
> in the future, in practice. Given that Release 15 does not require this 
> extension, it only requires RFC 5448 EAP-AKA’ (or the bis), this means that 
> there will be lots of phones and networks that only do the base… if you 
> mandated an extension you’d have lots of users having a problem connecting. 

  Sure.

> It is not completely unthinkable that at some point you’d be in a situation 
> where there’s enough deployment to start requiring something, but that would 
> certainly be many years away. Plus some portion of 5G deployment happens in 
> so called Option 3 model, which means no new core, no new protocols (incl. 
> EAP) between the network and the UE. Before you can progress away from that 
> and the RFC 5448-only modes, much time will pass.

  I've been doing my thing for 20 years.  I'm not going anywhere, so I'm 
thinking about the long term.

  Anyways, I think this is necessary.

  Alan DeKok.

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