On Thursday, January 12, 2012 11:26:45 AM Erik Christiansen did opine: > On 12.01.12 02:22, gene heskett wrote: > > But, now there is a new CadSoft Eagle problem for all of us that > > renders the whole project moot. > > > > Apparently my freebie copy of eagle has timed out, the screen it opens > > is about 75% transparent and extremely bleached out, rendering it > > unusable. > > Gene, I just went back to an older Eagle version: > > -rwxr-xr-x 1 erik erik 14120824 2010-06-07 13:10 > /opt/eagle_5.10/bin/eagle* > > Although 18 months old, it works fine. I just opened a design, viewed > the schematic, and did a ratsnest on the board. Is it possible that you > selected sub-optimally at the licencing menu? (e.g. "licence later"?, > rather than the "run unlicenced", or whatever the actual text is? The > former seems an invitation to time-out.) No, I gave it the freebie-key in the key requester. And I ran it as bin/eagle from the /opt/eagle pwd. It did not ask me for a key this time, signing on in the right half window as:
EAGLE Easily Applicable Graphical Layout Editor Version 4.16r2 for Linux Light Edition Copyright (c) 1988-2006 CadSoft All rights reserved worldwide Single User License #62191E841E-LSR-WLM-1EL FOR EDUCATIONAL USE ONLY! Registered to: Freeware license for "non-profit" and evaluation purposes. See the file "freeware.key" or the URL "www.cadsoft.de/freeware.htm" The screen is 100% brightness, and all the text in the pulldown menu's is bleached out and illegible. Essentially useless when the edit screen is opened and all I can see is the background screen showing through. > > And I rarely use it, generally only for a viewer because I've never > > figured out how to use it (and the freebies undo never worked either) > > On all of the three or four versions of Eagle that I've used over the > years, undo has always worked fine, going back dozens of changes, when > I've paddled up some murky backwater, and regretted it. > > I'll admit that I didn't initially find its way of doing things even > slightly intuitive. The pdf manuals are really needed, I find. > On the other hand, we've had Eagle howto questions on this list before, > so I assume we can again. For a more specific community, there's the > Cadsoft-hosted newsgroup, described on their website. They'll also be > able to tell if you're not holding your mouth right. > > > So I went and downloaded the newest freebie version, but when I do the > > usual "wine name_of_program.exe" to install it, > > That's probably doing it the hard way. This sufficed for me: > > $ ./eagle-lin-5.10.0.run I've got that I think, lets see if it runs. Started, asking for a key, what should I do? Choice is later, real key or freeware key. Later is prechecked. Finished, the ran /opt/eagle/bin/eagle, got key requester, navigate to the /opt/eagle/bin directory where I see an eagle.key and a freeware.key, clicked on the freeware key. Then it advised me I was out of date. Downloaded fresh 3 days ago. Quit that, found the unpacked 6.0.0.run and moved it there. Ran it, got this: [gene@coyote eagle]$ sh ./eagle-lin-6.0.0.run /tmp//eagle-setup.3616/eagle-6.0.0/bin/eagle: error while loading shared libraries: libpng14.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory But the freshly installed 5.1.0 still runs (kewl), and now the screens are 100% normal and usable. But it looks to me like we'll be waiting for 12.04 LTS before eagle-6.whatever will install. If it will even install then. > > the install bails out, claiming it needs a libpng14.so but mine is > > 12.so. So I check the dvd's I just burnt of the just released 2 weeks > > ago CENTOS-6.2. Opps, same library. Looking at my uptodate 10.04 LTS > > install, it also has libpng12.so. > > The distro's deficiency can apparently be remedied by following a few > entertainingly convoluted steps: > > http://www.eaglecentral.ca/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=143191&3b4682b80e > 9a52b3ab0b1e296be8b731/ > But hey, it works! > > I have to assume that is intentional. > > I don't know that centos intentionally omitted the latest libpng, so > can't say. Intentionally I was applying to CadSoft. Centos-6.2 is supposed to be STABLE, which means most of its stuff is the bugfixed previous versions. I can't blame them for that. > > That was last friday so I wrote CadSoft an email asking what linux > > distribution was using that bleeding edge of a libpng.so library. And > > of course no reply since there is no support for the freebie version. > > a) I've had free support from Cadsoft for the freebie version, in > response to product-specific questions. The support was so helpful > that I was moved to buy their hardcopy manual, in token thanks. That is available on their web page? Mmm, found a V6_manual_en.pdf on their site, feeebie download, 334 pages. I need some breakfast and a couple more binders before I print that. > > b) There is also the newsgroup, which I've found great for more involved > discussions. > > c) The above link seems to show yet another eagle forum, providing a > third source of advice. > > The lack of reply might have been because it's a very simple LMGTFY? > (CadSoft Support is active in that forum, so you'll have both community > and vendor support in one place.) > > Would electrically-heated fleece-lined boots maybe allow you to relax in > that frigid workshop long enough to deal with the hassles of being an > early adopter? :-) > They don't want to sell such heating gizmo's to diabetics because we can't tell when our feet are getting dangerously hot (or cold although that seems to manifest itself in uncomfortable ways we shouldn't just ignore). I do have well insulated boots though. > For the moment, I'm sticking with my 18 month old Eagle, since I'm used > to it. (And I don't want the upgrade workload you're banging into. ;-) Actually Erik, that wasn't such a big deal to do, basically copy/paste from that link above and voila! But I am wondering if I need to put that last line into my rc.local in order to establish that environment again after a reboot. I'll bookmark that page just in case, and thank you VERY much. > Erik Cheers, Gene -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) My web page: <http://coyoteden.dyndns-free.com:85/gene> If people drank ink instead of Schlitz, they'd be better off. -- Edward E. Hippensteel [What brand of ink? 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