On Sunday 28 September 2008, Jon Elson wrote:
>Gene Heskett wrote:
>> If it wasn't for the poor PIV ratings of the schotky's(sp?), that would be
>> ideal, but I don't know of any power schotky's good for that sort of
>> reverse voltage.
>
>There are insanely fast turn-off diodes on the market.  By trying out a
>few in a circuit already proven to provide a torture test, it was easy
>to find a part that also had a VERY fast turn-on.  I didn't need
>anything super-fast, but it had to pick up 20 A in under 100 ns.
>
>> The std power si diodes slow turnoff can be a huge problem child also. In
>> an old GE UHF transmitter, we had 6 stacks of 48 each 20a, 400piv si
>> diodes in DO-5 cases that were used in the 3 phase beam supply.  Load was
>> about 6 amps per klystron at 20kv.  Because of the slow turnoff, the 3
>> phase power was welded phase to phase 180 times a second for about 30
>> u-secs a blip.  We had short lamp life all over the place cuz we had 2+kv
>> spikes sitting on the 120 volt lines at the duplexes on the wall.  We
>> considered replacing them with schotky's, till we totaled up the materials
>> cost's, which at the time would have come to about 20k$.  Eventually
>> lightning got the 375kw sola transformer between us and the powerline and
>> I had to bypass it.  That reduced the powerline impedance and dropped
>> those spikes to 75 volts.  It also got rid of the rectifier noise in the
>> video it had had since it went on the air, so that was another set of
>> jumpers, 4 pieces of 750mcm/phase, 12 total, that never got pulled back
>> out.  Almost any full power UHF broadcaster is going to be the power
>> companies biggest customer. :)
>
>Well, there's no way you can use standard rectifiers in a switching
>power supply, which any PWM servo drive is.  These fast turn-off diodes
>may cause some EMI, but at least they don't have to be "re-charged" much
>after conducting.  This is a big deal in 100 KHz+ power supplies.
>
>Another big power co. load is electric refrigeration.  Many buildings
>(or building complexes) have a 500 Hp electric turbine chiller
>(basically same as a home A/C except the compressor is a turbine instead
>of reciprocating).  Newer ones run 6000 - 10,000 RPM with a VFD, too.  I
>was shown an older one at work and there was a phone on the thing, next
>to the starting control panel.  It had some early soft-start system.
>Next to the phone was a list of power plant engineers that had to be
>called, in order, one half hour before motor start.  It had lots of
>exclamation points about doing this exactly right or the university
>would get a HUGE bill for not giving them adequate waning of starting a
>big load.
>
>>> As you turn the
>>> DC supply voltage up, the output rise/fall times can become quite a bit
>>> shorter than the gate drive rise/fall times.  I had expected with the
>>> Miller effect, etc. that the output rise/fall times would be somewhat
>>> slewrate limited, but not so, the slew rate speeds UP.
>>
>> The driver output probably gets stiffer faster than the FET's with the
>> increased supply voltage.  FET's also will sweep out the majority carriers
>> faster at higher voltages, but I'd think miller effect is there, just
>> being swamped by nitros burning drivers.
>
>The gate drive waveform has a distinct flat step when the transistor
>starts to turn on or off, as the Miller effect takes control of the
>gate.  You can use this to tell what the gate threshold of the
>transistor is.
>
I've seen that, and suspected that is what is was, thanks. New  z axis pix up 
on my web page. <http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/emc/z-axis-drive.jpg>

click on it once to get 1/1 pixels so you can read the text notes.

>Jon
>
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