Measurements I made in the last few days now show the internal discharges are 
about as intense as the original stress, but of course are inside the system so 
are more serious. So it appears an ESD event may be more likely to affect a 
system. Coming at once per second, not every pulse causes the internal 
discharges so a level of uncertainty in the test result is added.

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From: John Woodgate <j...@woodjohn.uk>
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Quite right, but any suggestion that a new failure mechanism might have been 
identified deserves serious consideration. In this case, the suggestion is more 
related to breakdown in service, rather than type-tests or end-of-line routine 
tests on newly-made products. It's somewhat analogous to fatigue failure in 
mechanical products. In the early days of colour TV in Britain, we had a spate 
of receiver fires, which were tentatively diagnosed as caused by leaving an 
unattended receiver on after the transmission had shut down, leaving the line 
timebase to run at an incorrect frequency. The broadcasters agreed to transmit 
a warning tone to call attention to the receiver left on.

On 2025-03-06 21:22, Ralph McDiarmid wrote:
Decades of application of IEC and UL standards have demonstrated the adequacy 
of product safety evaluation, particularly if done by 3rd party accredited 
agency.
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