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Subject: re: major safety issue possibly affecting 20% of the electronic 
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Hi Doug:

I am alarmed that you experienced breakdowns by an 800-volt pulse when the 
dielectric strength of the primary circuits is at least 1500 volts rms.  I have 
a few questions:

1.     What was the 800-volt waveform? You applied the pulse common mode, which 
I assume is to both line and neutral conductors connected together and to the 
ground wire. (This is the hi-pot test configuration.) Please confirm.

2.     How did you detect breakdowns, especially in the next microseconds after 
applying the pulse?

3.     Small wall-warts are typically two-wire with no ground. (The hi-pot test 
is to foil wrapped around the enclosure and to the secondary.) What was your 
test configuration?

4.     Primary-to-ground and primary-to-secondary in a typical product consists 
of Y capacitors, solid insulation, and air insulation. Since the air insulation 
is 2 mm or more, this is unlikely the site of the breakdown.  Solid insulation 
should easily withstand 800 volts (more likely 8,000 volts).  So, this leaves 
the Y capacitors as likely suspects.  What is your guess as to the EUT 
component that exhibits this phenomenon?

5.     Were any of the units you tested malfunctional or permanently damaged 
due to your tests?

6.     How can we get a copy of your paper?

Thanks,

Rich


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