Thanks, Brent.
When I was employed, the work came first, and was expected regardless of time for preparation for a conference. I had to fit in my preparation (and research for the conference) while maintaining the work. And, I had to make sure my work was covered while I was away at the conference. There may be different priorities for the self-employed. At ISPCE, I have been a formal paper reviewer. Three reviewers for each formal paper. I remember a review where I said the paper did not address a subject pertinent to ISPCE; I said the paper should be rejected. Whether or not it would be rejected depended on the other reviewers. I don’t know the results. In another review, I found an out-and-out error, which in my opinion, was a cause for rejection.. Again, I don’t know whether it was rejected. On the other hand, the reviewer gets to nominate the paper for the “Best Paper” award. In my opinion, all formal papers should be reviewed by a peer. ISPCE uses three peer reviewers. Each reviewer gets to decide whether he is qualified to review the subject matter of the paper. Best wishes for the holiday season, Rich From: Brent DeWitt <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2024 7:14 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] experiments as a source of knowledge Well said Richard. It's not clear why the submittal of a paper to a journal requires $10k investment. Many of the EMC journal papers come from university student groups, often led by a mentor. I doubt they invested that much money. Respectfully, Brent DeWitt, AB1LF IEEE EMC Society Senior Life Member On 12/8/2024 7:15 PM, Richard Nute wrote: Hi Doug: I’ve been doing PowerPoint presentations and formal papers for the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society since it was founded. My employers allowed me to prepare on company time and paid my travel and attendance expenses. The IEEE/PSES presentation/paper process has not charged me or my former employer for the presentations/papers. I did get a “best paper” award in 2013. For this society, there is no IEEE membership pre-requisite for presentation/paper, although there is a 20% higher attendance fee. Almost daily, it seems, I get invitations to present papers at some other IEEE conference and related conferences. None have expenses other than the charges for attending the conference, which are modest. As these are out of my field, I ignore them. In the past, I did some original research (published) while employed. Now that I’m retired, my “research” is searching and reading published papers related to a particular subject. I still do presentations and papers. I disagree with your assertion “the IEEE process makes it excessively expensive for an independent contributor to write a paper compared to DesignCon.” Attendance fees for DesignCon 2025 and IEEE PSES ISPCE 2025 are nearly equal. Richard Nute IEEE Life Fellow Bend, Oregon, USA - ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to [email protected] All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Website: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/ Instructions: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: https://ewh.ieee.org/soc/pses/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Mike Sherman at: [email protected] Rick Linford at: [email protected] For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: <[email protected]> _________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the EMC-PSTC list, click the following link: https://listserv.ieee.org/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=EMC-PSTC&A=1
