Hi Amund, I find it helps to think of insulation as Creepage, Clearance, and Solid Insulation all in parallel. The strength of the insulation is the strength of the weakest path.
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Our lead times for testing and consultancy are typically 4-5 weeks. -----Original Message----- From: Amund Westin <[email protected]> Sent: 12 November 2024 08:30 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PSES] Safeguard - Skilled person Thanks James, Yes, I see there is a big difference between Instructed and Skilled related to Safeguards. ==> creepage and clearance distance is one Safeguard together? BR Amund On 2024-11-12 09:25, James Pawson (U3C) wrote: > Hi Amund, > > If the equipment is to be used by a normal or instructed person then > it will still need two safeguards for a Class 3 energy source. > > It would be a very rare piece of equipment that only gets used by a > skilled person! > > All the best > > James > > James Pawson > > Managing Director & EMC Problem Solver > > Unit 3 Compliance Ltd > > EMC : Environmental & Vibration : Electrical Safety : CE & UKCA : > Consultancy > > www.unit3compliance.co.uk [1] | [email protected] > > +44(0)1274 911747 | +44(0)7811 139957 > > 2 Wellington Business Park, New Lane, Bradford, BD4 8AL > > Registered in England and Wales # 10574298 > > _Office hours:_ > > _Every morning my full attention is on consultancy, testing, and > troubleshooting activities for our customers' projects. I'm > available/contactable between 1300h to 1730h Mon/Tue/Thurs/Fri._ > > _For inquiries, bookings, and testing updates please send us an email > on [email protected] or call 01274 911747. Our lead times > for testing and consultancy are typically 4-5 weeks._ > > From: Amund Westin <[email protected]> > Sent: 12 November 2024 06:20 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [PSES] Safeguard - Skilled person > > IEC TR 62368-2:2019:, Ch.4.3.4 "Safeguards for protection of a skilled > person", table 1: > > Skilled persons require 0 safeguard to Class 3 energy source. > > Does this requirement make influence on the creepage and clearance > distances? > > BR Amund > > ------------------------- > > This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society > emc-pstc discussion list. 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